Appropriations & Oversight Committee — 2021-05-20
Attendance
Christopher Cinella ; Jack Eccles ; Mark Garipay ; Jen Grigoraitis ; Maya Jamaleddine ; Shawn M. MacMaster ; Jeff McNaught ; Leila Migliorelli ; Robb Stewart ; Cory Thomas ; John N. Tramontozzi
Agenda
- Call to Order
- Public Comment
- Orders
- ORDER-2021-120 : Appointment of Shannon Phillips to serve as City Solicitor for the City of Melrose
- ORDER-2021-122 : City of Melrose Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2022 in the amount of $91,000,522.33 (Ninety-One Million, Five Hundred Twenty-Two Dollars and Thirty-Three Cents).
- ORDER-2021-129 : An Appropriation from Free Cash, account number 01-324001, in the amount of $75,000 to the Affordable Housing Trust, account number 82704-490000.
- ORDER-2021-134 : An Appropriation from Free Cash, Account 01-324001, in the amount of $50,000 to Planning Professional Services, account 011752-529000) for wayfinding projects.
- Adjournment
Minutes
CITY OF MELROSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CALENDAR● MAY 20, 2021 Web-based remote meeting Budget Hearing 6:31 PM , Melrose, MA 02176 The public should take notice that the Melrose City Council may, on certain occasions, have a quorum in attendance due to standing committees of the City Council consisting of both voting and non-voting members. Members attending this duly posted meeting are participating and deliberating only in conjunction with the business of the standing committee. Attendee Name Title Status Arrived Jeff McNaught Chair Present Jack Eccles Vice Chair Present John N. Tramontozzi Absent Shawn M. MacMaster Present Mark Garipay Present Jen Grigoraitis Present Leila Migliorelli Present Robb Stewart Present Cory Thomas Present Maya Jamaleddine Present Christopher Cinella President, ex oficio Present
ORDER-2021-120 Appointment Appointment of Shannon Phillips to serve as City Solicitor for the City of Melrose Recommend Passage City Council
ORDER-2021-122 Operating Budgets (City, School, Regional School) City of Melrose Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2022 in the amount of $91,000,522.33 (Ninety-One Million, Five Hundred Twenty-Two Dollars and Thirty-Three Cents). Hold Appropriations Committee
ORDER-2021-129 Appropriation An Appropriation from Free Cash, account number 01-324001, in the amount of $75,000 to the Affordable Housing Trust, account number 82704-490000. Recommend Passage City Council
ORDER-2021-134 Appropriation City of Melrose Page 1 1/7/2022 9:25 AM Minutes Appropriations Committee May 20, 2021 An Appropriation from Free Cash, Account 01-324001, in the amount of $50,000 to Planning Professional Services, account 011752-529000) for wayfinding projects. Hold Appropriations Committee City of Melrose Page 2 1/7/2022 9:25 AM
Transcript
▶ 0:00 Jeff McNaught: Are we starting with Health Education and Welfare now? Okay, I think you're at 730 Maya. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay, we're recording. Good evening. The time is 631 PM on May 20th, 2021. This is a meeting of the Appropriations Committee. am council mcnaught the chair of this committee and in rule in lieu of a roll call attendance joining me this evening are councillor mcmaster councillor Migliorelli councillor Garipay councillor Grigoraitis councillor gemaldi councillor Stewart vice chair eccles is here now i'll throw him in counselor thomas and president sanella i do want to make note that our fellow counselor tram and chozy is not able to be with us this evening as he is at his daughter's graduation out of state so we wish them the best and congratulations on that graduation
▶ 1:25 Jeff McNaught: but the attendance i've announced does provide notice of a quorum for the record Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 12, 2020 order suspending certain provisions of the Open Meeting Law and the Governor's March 15, 2020 order imposing strict limitations on the number of people that may gather together in one place, this meeting of the Appropriations Committee will be conducted via remote participation to the greatest extent possible. We will post an audio or video, recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of these proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting on the City Council website, or the City of Melrose website, and on mmtv3.org. Apologize, allergy season is getting the best of me.
▶ 2:14 Jeff McNaught: At this point, I am going to look for unanimous consent to open public comment if there is no objection. Seeing no objection, we're open for public comment. If we have any attendees who would like to speak in public comment, you may speak to any item on the agenda in the Appropriations Committee. It looks like we may have all people from the administration. I don't see any digital hands, Madam Clerk, do you? I do not see any digital hands raised at this time. Last call. If there is no objection, I am moving for unanimous consent to close public comment. Seeing no objection, public comment is now closed. and members of the administration this evening I will move for unanimous consent to suspend the rules if there is no objection seeing no objection our
▶ 3:29 Paul Brodeur: rules are now suspended and our first order of business is order 2021-120 the appointment of Shannon Phillips to serve as the city solicitor for the city of Melrose. I believe we have Mayor Broder and I believe City Solicitor Van Kampen here. Are they both coming into the room? I'm going to make the Mayor a panelist right now. And Ms. Phillips. Good morning. Sorry, guys. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. It is good to see everyone again this evening. As you all know, this is not a budgetary matter. This is, I am proud to say, the appointment of the first um female city solicitor in the history of the city um shannon phillips shannon has um roughly shannon will correct me if i'm wrong about 12 years of experience
▶ 4:33 Paul Brodeur: as a lawyer and more in the in the field of law her entire legal career has been in municipal law beginning as a paralegal in the City of Boston upon her graduation from Suffolk Law School, which is my alma mater, though she obviously graduated way after me. She became Corporation Counsel for the City of Boston, part of the City of Boston's legal department, and then moved on to the City of Somerville's legal department where she participated in really a full array of legal matters affecting municipalities with a particular focus on labor and employment and she comes highly recommended and her resume I think speaks for itself and with that I am pleased to present miss Phillips for her statement of your
▶ 5:27 consideration thank you thank you mr. mayor miss Phillips the floor is yours through the chair thank you mayor Broder so much for those nice remarks good evening to all the honorable council members I just want to thank you all for taking the time to meet me tonight and providing me with this great opportunity. Just echoing what Mayor Broder had said, I started my career with the city of Boston after passing the bar in 2012. Before that, I was a litigation paralegal in their litigation department. So I've worked in municipal law even before I passed the bar. In Boston, I did a lot of general civil rights cases in federal state court uh district court did a lot of uh did a lot of um subrogation cases negligence actions
▶ 6:09 employment actions etc i moved over to uh the city of somerville in 2016 it presented a greater opportunity to to work on a wider variety of municipal matters uh and in working with uh the city of somerville probably about 50 of what i worked on i would say was labor and employment law uh so i've i've had more than 20 cases at the department of labor relations for unfair labor practice charges more than 10 cases at civil service commission for discipline bypass promotional bypass original appointments etc um i've also been involved in negotiating memorandum of agreements uh that were incorporated into various collective bargaining agreements uh for the city of somerville i'm involved i was involved on a day-to-day basis uh advising department heads
▶ 6:55 on any labor and employment issues that might come up um aside from that i handled grievances and arbitrations on behalf of the city i think i've had about four or five arbitrations since i've been with the city of somerville that have been assigned to me um so aside from that the other 50 of what i did for somerville you know involved providing legal advisory opinions to city councillors drafting ordinances working with departments and various city councillors on various ordinances they wish to see passed in the city of somerville um a few examples of that i think in the boston globe yesterday actually there was mentioned the native species planting ordinance that I assisted the president of the city council with along with the urban forestry
▶ 7:32 planner. And Somerville was the first in the nation to determine percentages for native planting within the city of Somerville limits. So that was actually mentioned yesterday. I also crafted and worked extensively with the city council, ISD engineering on the small cell wireless ordinance, which I understand is an interest to this city council and something that's ongoing for you as well. And the short-term rental ordinance on behalf of the city of Somerville. So those are just a few ideas of different ordinances I've worked on over the years. I've regularly appeared before City Council and the Legislative Matters Committee on a variety of issues. I'd say maybe two times a month for at least the past two years, I've been present at these meetings
▶ 8:10 providing legal advice and opinions. And aside from that, I mean, general municipal defense and municipal matters. Melrose is such a great community. I was very excited when I saw this opportunity open up um it's i've worked obviously on the outskirts of melrose for a long time uh it really is a city with a small town feel is my impression of it um i think it's a very incredible community um and this opportunity it seems like such a great step in my career you know having been an assistant city solicitor for so long having had great mentorship with the city solicitor frank right that i i know worked for melrose for a while on the city council um so i really feel i'm ready to tackle you know all the all the issues and challenges you might face in
▶ 8:49 Robb Stewart: Melrose and provide the best legal advice to the council department heads and the mayor as needed. I'm very excited again for this opportunity. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Phillips. I just want to give the councillors anyone a chance who may have questions for you to do so. Councillor Stewart. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Ms. Phillips for coming before us this evening. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for providing her this opportunity. I have no questions for you. I just wanted to give feedback to the chair that in context with some of the folks I know in Somerville, I've heard nothing but outstanding news regarding Ms. Phillips, and I look forward to wholeheartedly supporting her in this nomination.
▶ 9:39 Shawn M. MacMaster: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Councillor Stewart. Do any other councillors have? Councillor McMaster, and I have Councillor Garofalo next. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Ms. Phillips, for being here tonight. I don't have any questions. I'm not going to ask you to elaborate on anything just for the sake of doing it. As you know, you and I had a very good conversation earlier today where I just asked you some questions to learn a little bit more about your experience. Learned a little bit at that time about how you interact with the Somerville City Council. I'm very impressed with your resume and all of your municipal law and labor law experience. And I think we're very fortunate to have you before us tonight. And I'm looking forward to voting to support your nomination. Thank you. Again.
▶ 10:28 Christopher Cinella: Thank you. Council McMaster Council. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Ms. Phil to being here. Like, everyone else here, resume is very extensive and I just don't want to say welcome to Melrose and I look forward to. Councillor Sinella. President Sinella, sorry. Thank you, Chair McNaught. I just wanted to echo all the sentiments we've heard so far and welcome you to the city. I, too, have heard a lot of great things about you, and I look forward to working with you. And I think for purposes of the discussion, I'd like to make a motion to recommend Attorney Phillips to the full council. Second. Motion by President Cinella to recommend Ms. Phillips to the full council, seconded by Councillor Grigoraitis.
▶ 11:28 Jeff McNaught: On discussion, seeing none, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Chair McNaught? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councillor McMaster? Yes. Councillor Garipay? Yes. Councillor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councillor Migliorelli? Yes. Consular Stewart? Yes. Yes. Consular Thomas? Yes. Yes. Consular Jamaleddine? Yes. President Cinella? Yes. Yes. 10 yes. That motion passes. Welcome to Melrose. I think you can tell we all look forward to working with you. Thank you very much for working with all of you and meeting you in person sometime soon. Amen. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate your consideration. Okay, next up on the agenda begins our Night 2 of the budget season, the assistance order 2021-122,
▶ 12:31 Jeff McNaught: City of Melrose operating budget for fiscal year 2022 in the amount of $91,522.33. First up this evening, we have the Department 545 Commission on Disability. believe Mr. Hoff is here with us this evening. I think he's already in the room. DAVID HOFFMANN Yes, I am. Let me start my video. DAVID HOFFMANN We can hear you. Don't see the video yet. DAVID HOFFMANN All right. There we go. I think it's on. There I am. Now you can see me in my daughter's bedroom. So, well, thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I'm David Hoff. I am the newly elected chair of the Melrose Commission on Disability as of two weeks ago. I've been on the commission since it began, really began in operation last fall. So we are still in somewhat of an organizational mode,
▶ 13:33 but I just wanted to share a little bit about our priorities as we go forward. One major priority is to just start to really identify the needs of the city in terms of greater access for people with disabilities and to ensure that people with disabilities can you know fully participate in all aspects of the city and civic life and community and community life and so we're kind of in early putting together a kind of a longer term work plan in terms of how to identify the needs of the city and then how to implement them so one area that we are definitely going to look at over this next six months is identifying funding for a comprehensive survey of community needs. And there is, you know, there is actually
▶ 14:25 a funding available from the Massachusetts Office on Disability to conduct a survey, a comprehensive needs assessment of the city. And that funding, if it goes through by the same calendar as last year, a grant will be, the solicitation will be out in August and with grants to in October. But obviously any support we can get from the city in regards to kind of that comprehensive survey. And through that process, it's basically, it's a matter of going through, you know, city buildings and working closely with the city on really doing a comprehensive needs assessment in terms of access for people with disabilities. So that is certainly one priority. A second priority, really not, you know, don't necessarily see this as a huge budget item,
▶ 15:11 but very important is ensuring that all um city events including um city meetings of city government as well as other city events are fully accessible and that not only accessible but that they're actually that's done in a way that is people with disabilities are made to feel welcome easy access to accommodations and things like that so that's a second area that we're taking a look at and the third area which um again may require some resources but obviously we need to start to examine it more closely long term we had a healthy discussion our last meeting about voting access and ensuring that voting is as accessible as possible to people with disabilities so that's another important area that we're going to begin to focus on so I'd say those are kind of
▶ 15:55 Cory Thomas: three highlights of kind of where we're at in terms of our priorities and I'd be happy to answer any questions about what the commission is working on or overall goals so thank you Mr. Hoff for providing that overview plan to do in FY22. I did see Councillor Thomas hand go up. Did I miss anyone else? Okay Councillor Thomas. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hoff welcome. Thank you for the work that you're doing with the Disability Commission and the Commission on a whole. I know it's a relatively new commission in Melrose. Hearing you talk about the the needs of the community and and um an evaluation how can people in melrose uh contact the commission and and how can they reach out to you um to be heard you know and to get a evaluation in their
▶ 16:49 hands okay so right now what we have is we're actually um i just um sent language to um actually um um uh karen burke um sits on that sits on the the city's um veterans um staff person uh is handling kind of getting stuff on our webpage so i send her language today to on our web page to just a simple overview and to encourage folks to contact us with any issues right now she is acting as our primary contact her phone number and email on that um we may have a further discussion about that but i've had a little i've had a discussion with her about about contacting her we are also going to work on our social media presence uh we have a copy of the social media uh guidelines and requirements for the city so we're working on that so i think that's that's a key thing is just to
▶ 17:36 kind of i think awareness of the commission is really critically important i really appreciate you raising that and certainly you know resources that we can use towards that because right now it's really we feel like one of our primary roles is to uh be that conduit so if there are people have issues in the city uh people with disabilities you know we can't solve everything but we also want to be the place that people go and say look i um this building is not accessible i had trouble getting in here i'm having trouble getting services um we've had some early discussions with the with the special education parent advisory council so we want definitely to be that place that people can go to in terms of of issues that might come up that we can assist with
▶ 18:17 Cory Thomas: and provide support and either try to resolve them ourselves or but in many cases serving as an information referral or frankly going to the city proper city officials and having a discussion so sure uh mr hop when you do have your social media up and running uh please share that with the council you know i'd be happy to share that on my own individual pages as i'm sure are my colleagues on the council will be as well um you mentioned your website is that on the city of Melrose website is there a yeah we have a city with a change on the we have a page on the on the um you know we you know part of the we've had a length discussion about web issue issues but you know obviously it's my understanding that the city wants everything within their obviously all
▶ 18:57 the commissions within the whole city uh structure web structure so we have right now we have a web page right now it consists of the commissioner's names and uh positions on positions so hopefully within the next few days we'll have some language there that uh in terms of our responsibilities and which are really just essentially pulled from the um from the language that that created the uh commission uh a year or so ago and then and then a little bit more about um our meetings our meeting schedule how to contact and the importance of reaching out to us with any questions or any assistance that people might need that's great mr hop thanks so much for being here thanks for the information you were able to provide okay thank you thank you council thomas
▶ 19:44 Jen Grigoraitis: are there any questions for mr huff council Grigoraitis thank you chairman thank you mr hoff for being here and for stepping up to lead this critical group in its early phases i know you bring both a level of expertise and empathy around these issues and i'm really happy to have your leadership um and support in this community um i just want to say that i i know that you are or just at the beginning of this, and that I think this council is really happy to have this commission up and running and want to be able to be supportive as you figure out what we need and what we need to advocate for, for all of our citizens so that we can be one community open to all. And I motion to recommend the passage
▶ 20:23 Jeff McNaught: or to move the bottom line. I apologize. Second. Second. We have a motion by Councilor Grigoraitis to move the bottom line. Department 545, Commission on Disability, seconded by Councilor Thomas on discussion. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Chair McNaught? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councillor McMaster? Yes. Councillor Garipay? Yes. Councillor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councillor Migliorelli? Yes. Councillor Stewart? Yes. Councillor Thomas? Yes. Yes. Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yeah. President Cinella? Yes. And yes. Motion passes. Mr. Hoff, thank you again for being with us this evening. Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity. Take care. And next up we have Department 161. It's the city clerk who's already in the room.
▶ 21:33 Good evening, my council. It's always so interesting being on this side Of the agenda, so I am going to cover 161 city clerk, 162 election registrar and temporarily right now, 1, 1, 2 city council, my previous position. You all know who I am Kristen foot. I was appointed to the position of city clerk on May. 1st. I have been serving in the public avenue for about almost 7 years off and on in the city of Melrose. just am starting my completed my fourth year um the clerk's office is the official record keeper for the city of melrose the historian if you will we serve the public providing all vital records business licenses dog licenses and i know you don't probably don't own this but fortune teller licenses for all the circuses come to town um you know we are in charge of the elections for
▶ 22:25 the city both all the elections state local and federal and uh the department has four full-time employees myself an assistant city clerk who's currently vacant a senior clerk and the elections administrator um in 2020 as you all know we saw an unprecedented election turnout i want to highly commend the election staff all the part-time workers the voter registrar voters they were amazing and the turnout for the vote was 87 percent of the population in the general election so that was amazing um it was challenging with the pandemic but the state came a lot came across with a lot of really good um helpful tools for the residents mail-in voting a lot of different things they provided so in terms of my budget the changes the the biggest changes salary and
▶ 23:13 wages are just contractual and normal cost of living um the binding is up we did not do the street listing books last year we are going to print them this year i know folks really love those um the dues and fees mass town clerks association went up they do that every year and i'm also i did find out there is a specific mass city clerk association that i would really like to hone in on because we are a city and the town clerks association is great but it would be specific to the city so i'm going to look at that um printing it has reflected the cost of paper and we're going to probably print a little bit more because the vital record statistic is up everyone's Um, let's see what else we, um, the change, the biggest change probably is the elections budget. It is decreased by 15,000 dollars because of the part time employees that we hired in the last election.
▶ 24:09 Robb Stewart: There's only the local this year, so we don't anticipate needing as many part time staff persons and help professional help. So, I think that's it. If you have any questions happy to answer them. Thank you, Madam Clerk. First up, I have Councillor Stewart, then Councillor Garipay. Did I miss anyone else? Councillor Stewart? Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Ms. Foote, for covering a lot of the questions I already had. Very helpful for explaining the discrepancies. I think that's really one of the things that we all look at closely. And 1 of the discrepancies you didn't touch upon was the clear gov that was 6500. Last year and this year, I'm not even sure what that is, but what why is there a funding?
▶ 24:58 Sure, so clear gov, as I understand it, it was a budgetary tool, similar to. Much less on a much smaller scale to what assessor Wilcox put together, but it was hosted on our website at the bottom. You could go in and type in your tax dollars, and it would allocate what those tax dollars transferred to for services and the administration made the decision. They're not going to go with clear gov anymore because they have this fabulous in house created tool. So. Why spend the 6,500 dollars right? Right. That's my understanding. Um, and so. Did that on the did you cover city council as well? You did. I did, so I saw that license. Did that really drop. It did I negotiated a decrease because I found out there was a 3rd party administrator in there and I realized what are we spending that for when they're not really providing us with any TPA services. I'm, I was paying the bills.
▶ 26:01 I worked with the vendor and said, let's cut out the middle man. Yeah, yeah, that's great. And then, uh, finally, you have a. Just a small amount of advertising and just more out of curiosity. What do you spend advertising on for city council? Sure, your public hearing notices that need to go into the paper grant of locations, like, the operating budget and the, there's a. Mandated by law, you have to provide notice in the newspaper and that's costs at least 62 dollars per ad. Got it and that'll cover it. Okay. That's all the questions I have, so thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I just had 1 question and it's, um, it's for both the city, uh, city council and the city clerk.
▶ 26:59 office regarding education and seminars with the recent changes in both departments do you think that's going to be enough money that is a great question so uh that is a great question for city clerk i really want to focus on professional development i am a true believer like the city auditor said yesterday the better educated and proficient our workers are the better services we may provide to the city so i missed where it's just a guesstimate there's a couple of there's some town uh north shore town clerks is putting together some education so i am going to try and send folks to that i want to do some things as well so i'm hoping hoping that it's enough thank you thank you counselor mcmaster thank you mr chairman uh thank you uh miss foot
▶ 27:54 Shawn M. MacMaster: But on Councillor Garipay question, just one thing to think about is the opportunities that exist for shadowing other clerk's offices. So when you bring on and onboard an assistant city clerk, the relationships I think that you've already established and that you're starting to develop might be opportunities to get training in a way that doesn't cost us anything. but I do think Councilor Garipay raises a good point and certainly let us know if there's more that's needed so that we can advocate for that. Thank you. Councilor Grigoraitis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Clerk Foote, for being here tonight and every other night. I just had more of a question in your 20 days as clerk thus far. Because of the changes in
▶ 28:46 Jen Grigoraitis: personnel that we've experienced both in the clerk of committees and in the city clerk's office both of which are roles that roll up to the council under the charter we've obviously had some cost savings because of salaries that we're not paying and do you have an understanding from the city of where that unexpended funding goes and also what will happen in the 20 budget if the salaries that are budgeted are not the salaries offered to new folks i know that at At least for the purpose committee's position, the posted salary is significantly lower than the salary that was budgeted for. So, I just, I wondered if you've given a sense of where that unexpected funding goes. Great question short answer is I have not, but I can, I will absolutely ask and and provide that answer to the council.
▶ 29:35 Cory Thomas: Thank you any other questions for. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, uh, quick foot. Welcome. Always. Nice to have you. Always. Nice to see you. Um, you're. The mayor's estimates for 2020 fiscal year, um, for the part time salaries and wages for the election staff. Is that based on 1 centralized polling location or is that polling locations throughout the city? Uh, in the 7 words, my understanding is there's no. Change based on location, so it's a straight. Amount to an allocation to align, regardless of how many polling locations there are. Does that answer your question? Do those numbers add up? And I thought we were hurting for volunteers in this past election and there was a need, you know, also through the pandemic.
▶ 30:33 Cory Thomas: There was a need for 1 centralized location. So, with fewer volunteers and poll workers. Would that be if there's fewer, it's a smaller election this year. It's not a state or federal election. It's a local election. Would the need be there? I apologize. Is the is the number needed. For fewer voters, the same location as it is across the city. Let me see if I understand this. So, if there's 1 central polling location versus all of the in the different awards and precincts. So, if I understand your question is, is the amount of staffing. The same, regardless and the class associated with that. Wouldn't it be for volunteers for 1 location? Then throughout the city, actually, no, it's mandated.
▶ 31:35 Jeff McNaught: Each precinct and ward has to have a set amount, you know, check ins, check outs, warden clerks. So there are. Those roles remain the same, regardless of whether it's in 7 locations or 1. Okay, thank you. Sure. Thank you, Thomas. Anyone else the 1st time? Well, I just wanted to say. Thank you, Madam clerk, because it is council Grigoraitis alluded to. You're only a few weeks into this role. We know how hard you're working. We appreciate it. We know that you're still doing the role. Of committees, and I assume doing. Performing the other vacant position in your new office, which is the assistant city clerk. Is that accurate? It's a team effort, right? Well, thank you. Thank you. But nonetheless, picking up a lot of extra responsibilities and.
▶ 32:33 Shawn M. MacMaster: Making our lives and the residents of Melrose lives easier. And and we appreciate that. So thank you very much. Thank you. Counselor McMaster, did you have a question? It's just Mr. chairman, I'm just wondering if it might make sense for us to consider conjoining the 3 orders before us, rather than voting on them individually. So, if if you don't object, Mr. chairman, I wouldn't move at this time to conjoin. 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 1, 12, 1, 6, 1, being the city clerk's office, 1, 6, 2, being elections and 1, 1, 2, being city council. So, the motion just to be clear is to conjoin and then if seconded and if approved, we would vote on the conjoined orders. So, we have a motion to conjoin. Lines 161, City Clerk, 162, Elections and Registrar, Voters, 112, City Council.
▶ 33:43 Jeff McNaught: Made by Council McMaster, seconded by Councilor Migliorelli. On discussion, seeing none, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Chair McNaught? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes, yes, yes. Yes, council. Yes, counselor Stewart. Yes, counselor Thomas. Yes. Yes. President. Yes. Yes. Thank you Mr chairman motion to move the bottom line on the conjoined orders. 16116. 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 1, 12 2nd. Motion to move the bottom lines on the conjoined orders. Of 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 12 made by a Councilor McMaster. Seconded by a Councilor Thomas, Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Chair McNaught? Yes. Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor Garipay? Yes.
▶ 35:02 Christopher Cinella: Councilor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. Councilor Stewart? Yes. Councilor Thomas? Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes. President Fenella? Yes. Eleven yes. Motion passes. I see a lot of 10s going up in the air. That's good. High-fives, air high-fives. I like it. I'd like to go to President Sinella. Yeah, thank you. Let me ask for a moment of personal privilege. Just a quick moment of personal privilege. Mayor Broderick had forgot previously to ask me to remind the public that the Melrose Youth Vaccine Clinic is tomorrow ages 12-22, from 1 30 to 3 30 um at the middle school cafeteria and um for those that are watching right now and want to learn more about signing up just go to our city of melons.org website it
▶ 36:05 Denise Gaffey: should be in the right side of the screen on your news thank you mr president um next we have i I believe Ms. Gaffey coming into the room to speak on, one moment, 175, Department 175, Office of Planning and Development. Director Gaffey, can you hear us? I can. One moment. Good evening. Good evening, Ms. Gaffey. Pleased to be here tonight. My name is Denise Gaffey. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development. And, I, so I support, um, and I'm in charge of a very small, but very busy, very dynamic, um, planning office as I know you all know. Um, the planning office provides long range plan, long range planning, manages the capital improvement program for the city. Reviews and recommends zoning changes applies for grants and, uh, community development programs, implement special projects.
▶ 37:34 Denise Gaffey: We oversee the sustainability efforts for the city. We also support several boards and commissions, including the planning board, the zoning board of appeals and the historic district commission. We review all major land use proposals in the city, including subdivisions and significant residential and commercial development proposals. And we also support the, um, or geographic information systems for the city and provide all the support for the city's mapping tool. Throughout throughout the city, so, um. We've had incredibly busy year as you all know. Um. It was extremely challenging dealing with the conditions around the pandemic. And we successfully pivoted to, um. working from home and providing access to the public um to all of our public hearings remotely
▶ 38:32 Denise Gaffey: um and allowed um allowed our planning board and zoning board of appeals and the historic district commission all the boards and committees to continue to meet without um without really missing any any meetings last year it was pretty amazing um and it took a lot of work um but we feel like we've been very successful in keeping our business going for the city through the year um it's a very busy year we've had lots of meetings um permitting activity is incredibly active right now um so we definitely saw quite a few quite a few cases and had quite a few meetings um some of the special projects we worked on included the um refining and creative placemaking initiative that was really exciting and a nice way with that for us to to engage with
▶ 39:24 Denise Gaffey: the community while people were kind of stuck at home in the early pandemic days we had a lot of participation in the survey that we did and we were really excited to be able to implement the city's first major public art initiative we've also been working on in terms of long-range planning we've been working on a housing production plan and that process is going really well we we've reported into the council a couple of times we've had a community engagement last fall and we have another community engagement coming up um in june and we should be starting to wrap up that process in the next couple of months and um which is pretty exciting for us it's um this will be you know our um our road map for housing production and in the
▶ 40:13 Denise Gaffey: community for the next five years and we're getting a lot of great input from residents about about what they believe the needs are and what their vision is for mellows around housing collection so we're excited about that um we've um currently have a zoning initiative we spent some time working on on zoning and uh on a creative incentive zoning tool and that is of course currently in front of in front of the council um so we look forward to continuing to see that come come to fruition and we worked quite a bit on um on our our mapping our mapping uh functionality i i think if you spend any time on the city's gis or map maps online you'll see all the great features and i think we have one of the best tools out there and that's
▶ 41:06 Denise Gaffey: um a credit to the work of the rgis person in the planning office she also was very helpful at the beginning of the pandemic helping with making signs and pulling some data together to support that effort and those helps effort so essentially um my planning department is um essentially the planning budget is essentially staff and the only um change of note from last year is um we're proposing to increase the amount of hours for the sustainability manager um i didn't talk much about her accomplishments but everybody knows how um how much work that martha does um in the community around sustainability she currently has been working 30 hours per week we are proposing to increase her hours by five to make her position full-time so that is essentially
▶ 42:00 Maya Jamaleddine: the um the change that you see in the budget from this year from last year to this year and um i guess that's it i'm happy to take any questions thank you director gaffey counselor gemelody i just want to thank you for all your amazing work um we had a conversation earlier today and i wanted to um you know publicly thank you uh for taking the time and explaining in details and answering all my questions. I wanted also to agree with you on the increasing of Ms. Grover. We all know that she puts way more hours than what she actually is hired for, so definitely feel that this is the right decision, hopefully. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Counselor. Counselor, thank you for being here. Uh, just 1 question and I apologize if I miss this when you were speaking.
▶ 43:18 Robb Stewart: How many employees in your department are you 100% funded within your budget? So, we have 5 employees. For them, our full time, we have 1 part time, the planning coordinator coordinator position is part time. That's 24 hours per week. Um, and we do grab a little bit of funding from. From grants and from, um. The for our, for some of the work. That our analyst does. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Gaffey. Councillor Stewart? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Ms. Gaffey for being here tonight. I would like to give you the opportunity to talk a little bit about the fact that your department has grown quite significantly over the last 5 years. If you look at the percent increases that have gone on year over year, they've been in double digits for a couple of years and I'm talking from
▶ 44:30 Denise Gaffey: But only a salary perspective, and it's been in the last 5 years, you've increased about 35%. Um, so, and, you know, I don't think you're giving yourself a 35% raise. So I'd like to give you the opportunity to explain to the consulate public. Some of those expanded set of responsibilities that are being funded by this increase. For sure, and I wish I had 35% more staffing actually, but it doesn't that doesn't add up either. No, primarily the changes that we have been. Um, we have been slowly incorporating more of our staff time onto the city budget and off of some other funding sources. So, we had, we had greater capacity in some of our grant programs. We have greater capacity in our energy incentive.
▶ 45:22 Denise Gaffey: Line item, and we had greater capacity and a community development fund. Um, that was a revolving fund and based on loans that were granted out. Decades ago, so those funding sources have been dwindling over the years. And so, um, so, you know, we started planning for this several years ago, working closely with the mayor's office and with the city auditor, so that it didn't. Hit the city, but it budget all at 1 time, but rather we kind of slowly increased. The amount that was carried in the general budget over the past several years. So, it so again, it's not about it has not been about additional staffing. Although, I think it could be definitely be utilized. Great just very helpful to understand and there's got to thank you. Thank you. Mr.
▶ 46:13 Jeff McNaught: Thank you. I didn't see any other hands raised that. I miss anyone. Councilor Grigoraitis and Councilor Eccles, I have you next. Vice-Chair Eccles. Thank you, Chair McNaught. I was just going to make a motion to move the bottom line. Okay, I'm sorry, Scott. That works. Second. Okay. We have a motion to move the bottom line, Department 175, Planning and Development, made by Councilor Grigoraitis, seconded by President Cinella. On discussion, I'll go to Vice-Chair Eccles first, unless you were doing the same thing. Same thing. I was just going to make a. Okay, so on discussion. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Chair McNulloch? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Yes. Councilor McMaster?
▶ 47:08 Jeff McNaught: Yes. Councilor Garipay? Yes. Councilor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes, counselor Stewart. Yes. Yes. Counselor Thomas yes. Yeah, yeah. President, yes 10. yes. So that motion passes and that concludes. Any departments coming before us tonight on. For the 22 budget purposes. At this time, I'll entertain a motion to hold Order 2021-122 in committee. I make a motion to hold Order 2021-122. Whatever you said, Council President, I don't have it in front of me. 122. 122, sorry. Okay. Second. We have a motion to hold Order 2021-122 in committee by Councilor Garipay, seconded by councillor Grigoraitis on discussion you know madam clerk please call the role chair McNaught yes vice chair eccles yes councillor mcmaster yes councillor Garipay yes
▶ 48:36 Jeff McNaught: councillor Grigoraitis yes councillor Migliorelli yes councillor stewart yes councillor thomas Yes, come solution. Yeah. Yeah. President. Yes. Yeah. 10. Yes. Motion passes the order is held until Monday evening when we. Resume our budget hearings next we have order 2021 dash 129 and appropriation from free cash account number. 0, 1, 3, 2, 4, 0, 0, 1, and the amount of 75,000 dollars. To the affordable housing trust account number 8704. Dash 4, 9, 0, 0, 0, 0. And, uh, you are here to speak on that as well. I believe, yes, I am. Thank you. Thank you very much for your support for my budget tonight. So, hopefully you had a chance to see a member's memorandum that he submitted this afternoon. Essentially the mayor feels strongly about trying to.
▶ 49:47 Denise Gaffey: Trying to help address the, um, the extreme shortage in affordable housing and the high price of housing costs. By supplementing the funds that are in the affordable housing trust with this additional boost of funding 75,000, that will bring the amount of the trust fund to 312,000 dollars. Um, so he's, you know, he's hoping to take advantage of the opportunity with this free cash and also the timing associated with, um. The completion of the housing production plan, which is. Forthcoming, and I think he also intends to send. Names down to the council next month to to actually, um. To actually populate the, the trust, which was created by the council, um, late last year. So, I think the timing of all these things will work out really advantageously and the additional funding will help.
▶ 50:46 Leila Migliorelli: Um, the trustees, um, hopefully, you know, be able to really make a difference. And, um, um, getting some housing, some affordable housing in the very near future. Thank you director does anyone have any questions. On this free cash order counselor. Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you Ms. Gaffey for speaking on this tonight. This is one of has been a priority of mine and I had advocated with the mayor to add some resources to the affordable housing fund as we know that this is a continues to be a huge issue and affordability continues to be a huge issue in Melrose and whatever we can resources we can put towards it. And then with the appointment of the trust board, hopefully make some. I'm being interrupted by a barking dog. I'm sorry.
▶ 51:40 Mark Garipay: Thank you, Councillor Wigley-Rilley. Any questions from any other councillors? Councillor Garipay. I don't really have a question. I don't know who to direct this to when it comes to free cash orders, and it has nothing to do with this particular book. It doesn't sense. I support the order, but I have not been able to read the number that got sent down. I worked until 6.30, and I know we've had this discussion last year with the administration in order to get this information down to us in a timely manner. It's still bothersome that we're asked to vote on appropriations of money when we don't have any information or any memos until right before the meeting. So it's just something, just a kind of a point of order.
▶ 52:38 Mark Garipay: It's frustrating that, you know, I haven't even been able to really look at the memo. I don't know how we can move forward to make sure that the administration at least gives us some 48 hours notice. We all have full-time jobs and it's tough. We're meeting a half hour earlier than normal, and it's just tough to actually get this information and read it. It was just more of a statement. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Garipay. Any other councilors? Seeing no hands raised. What is Councilor Gavirides? i was just gonna motion to recommend for passage thank you so we have a motion to recommend for passage by council Grigoraitis seconded by vice chair eccles on discussion adam clerk will you please call the role chair McNaught yes vice chair eccles yes
▶ 53:35 Jeff McNaught: Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor Garipay? Yes. Councilor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. Councilor Stewart? Yes. Councilor Thomas? Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes. President Sinella? Yes. Yes. Motion passes. Next, we have Order 2021-134, Appropriation from Free Cash, Account 01-324-001, and the amount of $50,000 to the Planning Professional Services, Account 011-752-529-000 for Wayfinding Projects. Director Gaffey, I believe you're speaking to this as well. So, in this instance, Mayor Broder is interested in building on the successful wayfinding and creative placemaking initiative we embarked upon last year. I spoke a little bit about that in my budget presentation tonight, but we had a really, really great
▶ 54:52 Denise Gaffey: process and really engaged with the community and got some terrific feedback on some of the work we were able to do. Um, and what we'd like to do in this next phase, um, with this free cash funding is, um, build on some of the ideas that were presented by the consultant. We were working for with, um, along the, we find we finding signage. We ended up sort of putting the bulk of the funding through this. 1st phase into the public art piece, um, and, um, because we. Didn't have anything like it, and it was a lot of interest in the arts community to roll that out. And we knew that would be really exciting for the community during the pandemic. But during this next phase, we'd like to spend more time exploring a design concept or a branding concept for city signage, wayfinding signage that will help people
▶ 55:50 Denise Gaffey: identify Melrose and better get around, especially to our business districts and some of our other community amenities. So that would be the purpose of this phase of funding. It would be to take this to the next stage. And we're also hoping to leverage some funding that Representative Kate Wither-Garabedian has secured through an earmark. If that ends up getting approved by the Senate and we'll have some additional funding, we can leverage along with that. And in that case, we were kind of, um. We talked to the representative about, um, doing some additional streetscape improvements. Some infrastructure work in our business districts and elsewhere in the community in order to improve, um, um, pedestrian amenities and aesthetics and things of that nature. So we would combine that all into this 1 initiative.
▶ 56:51 Shawn M. MacMaster: Thank you, Director Gaffey. I have Councillor McMaster in the queue and Councillor McGrady. Councillor McMaster. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just had a similar concern that was raised by Councillor Garipay is that this memo was provided to the council at 4.33 PM this afternoon. It's a two page memo, not a lot of time with us working our full time job during the day to dive into it, really wrap our head around it. and I appreciate receiving the memo, but the concern is that the request is for $50,000 and there are three items it mentions, and Ms. Cathy, you talked about these, creating a final design for the wayfinding and signage system, fabricating and installing signage in priority locations, and investing in streetscape infrastructure and aesthetic improvements as
▶ 57:47 Shawn M. MacMaster: identified in the initial phase of the wayfinding initiative. Nowhere in the two-page memo though does it provide a cost estimate of um what those activities um you know would be from a financial uh standpoint so uh can you talk about how we arrive at fifty thousand dollars what what specifically uh is that going to look like what is so not generally but specifically how do we get to fifty thousand dollars and just to preface it you know i look at some of the other free cash items coming down one item of significance to i know every member of this council is traffic safety that item coming down is a hundred thousand dollars we don't know yet and i know this is beyond your purview miss gaffey a hundred thousand dollars for traffic safety
▶ 58:36 Denise Gaffey: this is half of of that so this is a lot of money we have a lot of needs we have school uh free cash requests so i i'd like to know specifically what the fifty thousand dollars um Um, is going to go towards, um, sure. So, uh. So, I don't have a specific breakdown at the moment, but I, we do know from working. Um, on the 1st phase that we had, we had insufficient funding in order to take. Some of the original concepts around way finding and then do the public process. We got a lot of, we got a lot of great. Um, well, we got a lot of. Um, input from the public, but there was no consensus on the different concepts. There were 3 different concepts that were presented. So, we know we have to do a little more work around the community engagement and we know we have to do a little more.
▶ 59:27 Denise Gaffey: Uh, design work to come to a consensus on on what the signage. Um, type should look like, so that's part of the funding and then there's. Actual fabrication and installation of way finding signs. Throughout throughout the community, you don't, you don't have a cohesive sign. Um, sign message now to to build from so we're kind of starting from scratch. So we know there's. A fair amount of work with that and, um, and then to the extent that we have funding available, we did. We did get a lot of great ideas from the community survey that we did previously around some public art. Some different public art ideas and. So, we hope to be able to accomplish some of those as well. And I can appreciate this, Cathy, that the signage as envisioned is probably not something we can do in post, but is the installation you have installation as being a potential cost. Is that something that DPW would not be able to do for some reason?
▶ 1:00:38 Shawn M. MacMaster: No, it's possible they could, it's possible they could help with some of the installation. I think some of it might be kind of tricky in terms of where things get located, but it is possible we can build that in. We're just not 100% sure, which is why I thought it was worth including. So, I think we've started down this path. It's a worthwhile project. I know, Ms. Gaffey, we had a conversation very early on when this opportunity came about, where I indicated an interest in having some signage for the hiking trails off of Goodyear in Brazil. So, it's something I'm definitely interested in, and I do think we need to sustain the work that's been done to date. This is important, similar to when we had an order on a completely different subject before us last meeting. This is something that I think creates social vibrancy or foster social vibrancy.
▶ 1:01:38 Shawn M. MacMaster: So, I'm in support of it, but I'm inclined at this time, Mr. Chairman, to make a motion to hold in committee based on Ms. Gaffey saying that there is no breakdown at this moment. Again, I just think understanding the needs before us, the needs that have been communicated to us, it would behoove us just to hold this in committee to give Miss Gaffey an opportunity to make a good faith estimate. That would get us either at the 50,000 dollars or at some other number. So I make that motion at this time. Mr. Chairman. 2nd, so we have a motion to hold in committee made by Council McMaster, seconded by Councilor Stewart on discussion. And I did have Councilor Geraitis next in queue. I'm happy to come to you first. Thank you Chairman McNaught. It's not directly relevant to the motion before us, but I just wanted to thank Ms. Gaffey for taking the time to talk with me today about
▶ 1:02:42 Jen Grigoraitis: This order, I also had several questions that she was able to answer. I'm in support of way finding. I do want to highlight and our conversation today was very helpful that. The money earmarks by rep, which I'm very grateful for and help makes through the full budget process that the state is for streetscape. And 1 of the. Things that I've been asking for for Ward 6 in particular is more trash cans, which I know sounds simplistic, but I know for anyone who's walked down Main Street on a Sunday morning, or gone to a kids sporting event at the common on a Sunday. We are the trash is overflowing and. That was a suggestion by director as a more cost effective way to try to deal with some of our.
▶ 1:03:26 Jen Grigoraitis: Trash concerns and bringing in more crews to do. To clear them, so I just would like to make sure that that is a priority in some of this funding, because I really do think it's a simple fix to a problem that I hear quite a bit about and that has all sorts of secondary problems. So that was just the point that I wanted to highlight and thank you for talking with me about that today. And just to reiterate, I mean, that is that is a commitment that the mayor is making with this funding as well as to add more trash receptacles. Um, throughout the community, understanding the great need. Thank you and if he wants to put his public art on it, I'm fine with that, but we definitely need more stuff that might have to happen.
▶ 1:04:12 Jeff McNaught: Any other counselors wishing to speak or ask director gaffey any questions. Okay, so I just want to bring this before we vote. A yes vote is to hold. This free cash order in committee until. We receive essentially a budget for the $50,000 for a way finding a no vote is to not hold it in committee and essentially to wait to make a motion to motion for a recommendation of passage. So, madam clerk, we please call the roll chair. Yes. Yes. Vice chair. Councilor Eccles. No. Councilor McMaster. Yes. Councilor Garipay. Yes. Councilor Grigoraitis. No. Councilor Migliorelli. No. Councilor Stewart. Yes. Councilor Thomas. Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine. No. President Cinella. No, five, yes. Motion does not pass. Is that your understanding?
▶ 1:05:40 Jeff McNaught: That's my understanding. The motion does not pass, but we're still 5-5. If someone makes a motion for passage, we're still going to be 5-5, I would assume. What do you do in that case? That's a McMaster in that case. Mr chairman, it would it would remain in. In committee, that's right. I think that's right. And that's the chair in the committee. I'm confident in saying that it does remain in committee at a deadline. So. The motion remains in committee, so we'll put that on another agenda soon. Miss Kathy. And that concludes our business for the evening. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Before we do that, Councilor Stewart, did you have a question? Just a point of clarification, Mr. Chair.
▶ 1:06:50 Christopher Cinella: We don't have to make a motion other than that motion was the final motion that we need to make on that order? Well, we were deadlocked. There's no tiebreak. We don't have our 11th councilor here. On that particular vote, right? So, in that instance, it stays in committee presidents and all. Yeah, I mean, you know, I know that we're deadlocked here, but I mean, it's it's. 50,000 dollars Denise has come before us. Several times various orders, free cash included. We're going to micromanage her further to. If she can come back, get whoever more of an itemized. You know, listing of what the money is going to go towards, but she did just explain. It's going and we found the other way finding project.
▶ 1:07:47 So, I don't know, I put my trust and confidence in this Gaffney. So, I mean, to hold this, we have all we have other work ahead of us the next month. So, Mr president, is that all. I mean, I would motion to recommend this to the board. Second, I've already ruled that it stays in committee. I'm happy to do the vote. You can recommend that. I just point of order that we do have a motion to. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. We do have a motion to adjourn on the table. It's also a privilege. It's also a privilege. I don't think I received a 2nd, I would draw my motion. The motion motion to adjourn is a privilege motion, so it supersedes any other. Right, but if it's removed, it's removed. Councilor Eccles, Vice-Chair Eccles, you made the motion to adjourn?
▶ 1:08:55 Shawn M. MacMaster: Yes. Okay. You're removing that? Okay. Let's hold the vote again. I'll reframe it again. We have a motion by Councilor Cinella to recommend this for passage to the Council, seconded by Councilor Migliorelli. A yes vote is to move it forward, a no vote is to hold it in committee. Councilor McMaster? Thank you Mr. Chairman. Just very briefly on discussion and response to President Sinella is I certainly don't want Ms. Gaffey to think that we don't have faith in her, but I do think that we have to be diligent and show our due diligence to the public in scrutinizing what comes before us with taxpayer money. And again, $50,000 is not a significant, insignificant amount of money, considering needs across the city, what's been represented to us as needs, what we've communicated to the administration as needs that we are requesting, especially ward counselors were making, you know, advocating for certain items.
▶ 1:09:57 Shawn M. MacMaster: So, I think to the public at 50,000, at this point, based on what we've seen in the late timing of getting the memo, it appears arbitrary and maybe it's not. But I do think we owe the public more in the public better and that's why again, I, it may be 50,000 dollars. I just don't think it's 50,000 dollars tonight with what we have in front of us. Thank you, Council McMaster. Councilor McLear-Elm? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to make a comment regarding the late submissions of these memos and just to point out that Councilors Jamaleddine, Grigoraitis, and I had filed an order back in March to get the Mayor's plan for free cash. And this is kind of where we're at. We got a series of free cash orders. I don't think we're going to get things more timely.
▶ 1:10:53 Jeff McNaught: We can hold things if we want to because we need more time to decide, but I agree with President Sinella that I think we have faith in Ms. Gaffey's leadership and direction with these wayfinding projects that I don't think it makes sense to hold this at this moment. Thank you. Anyone else for the first time? I'll just speak and say I completely trust Ms. Gaffey's judgment. I don't even think that that's what's in debate here. But to use the traffic calming example, $100,000 is not going to be anywhere enough for the entire city, and many council submitted detailed plans for what they wanted to do for traffic calming, myself included. $50,000 is a lot of money to ask for when we don't have consensus on what's going to be done with it yet.
▶ 1:11:48 Jeff McNaught: I don't think we have many budget hearings left to go. This is one free cash order that we can come back to along the way, and I'm sure it will pass once we get some more specificity. But nonetheless, we now have a motion to recommend this for passage to the full council made by Councilor Sinella and seconded by, President Sinella is seconded by Councilor Migliorelli. a yes vote moves it to the full council and no vote holds it in committee madam clerk will you please call the roll chair mcnaught no no vice chair eccles yes councillor mcmaster no councillor Garipay no council Grigoraitis Yes, yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. Councilor Stewart? No. Councilor Thomas? No. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes.
▶ 1:12:53 Jeff McNaught: President Cinella? Yes. Five yes, five no. Again, we're deadlocked. The order stays in committee. We will get this on an agenda soon, Ms. Gaffey. I'm assuming we'll get information soon. And we'll get it back on an agenda. I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn made by Councillor Thomas. Second. Seconded by Councillor Garipay. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Chair McNaught. Yes. Vice Chair Eccles. yes councillor mcmaster yes councillor Garipay yes councillor Grigoraitis yes councillor Migliorelli yes councillor stewart yes councillor thomas yes councillor Jamaleddine yes president tanello yes yeah and yes the motion passes we are adjourned and i'm going to hand this