ORDER-2021-122 : City of Melrose Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2022 in the amount of $91,000,522.33 (Ninety-One Million, Five Hundred Twenty-Two Dollars and Thirty-Three Cents).

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▶ 12:19 Jeff McNaught: Okay, next up on the agenda begins our Night 2 of the budget season, the assistance order 2021-122, City of Melrose operating budget for fiscal year 2022 in the amount of $91,522.33. First up this evening, we have the Department 545 Commission on Disability. believe Mr. Hoff is here with us this evening. I think he's already in the room.

▶ 12:56 Speaker 5: DAVID HOFFMANN Yes, I am. Let me start my video.

▶ 13:01 Speaker 1: DAVID HOFFMANN We can hear you. Don't see the video yet.

▶ 13:03 Speaker 5: DAVID HOFFMANN All right. There we go. I think it's on. There I am. Now you can see me in my daughter's bedroom. So, well, thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I'm David Hoff. I am the newly elected chair of the Melrose Commission on Disability as of two weeks ago. I've been on the commission since it began, really began in operation last fall. So we are still in somewhat of an organizational mode, but I just wanted to share a little bit about our priorities as we go forward. One major priority is to just start to really identify the needs of the city in terms of greater access for people with disabilities and to ensure that people with disabilities can you know fully participate in all aspects of the city and civic life and community and community life and so we're kind of in early putting together a kind of a longer term work plan in terms of how to identify the needs of the city and then how to implement them so one area that we are definitely going to look at over this next six months is identifying funding for a comprehensive survey of community needs. And there is, you know, there is actually a funding available from the Massachusetts Office on Disability to conduct a survey, a comprehensive needs assessment of the city. And that funding, if it goes through by the same calendar as last year, a grant will be, the solicitation will be out in August and with grants to in October. But obviously any support we can get from the city in regards to kind of that comprehensive survey. And through that process, it's basically, it's a matter of going through, you know, city buildings and working closely with the city on really doing a comprehensive needs assessment in terms of access for people with disabilities. So that is certainly one priority. A second priority, really not, you know, don't necessarily see this as a huge budget item, but very important is ensuring that all um city events including um city meetings of city government as well as other city events are fully accessible and that not only accessible but that they're actually that's done in a way that is people with disabilities are made to feel welcome easy access to accommodations and things like that so that's a second area that we're taking a look at and the third area which um again may require some resources but obviously we need to start to examine it more closely long term we had a healthy discussion our last meeting about voting access and ensuring that voting is as accessible as possible to people with disabilities so that's another important area that we're going to begin to focus on so I'd say those are kind of three highlights of kind of where we're at in terms of our priorities and I'd be happy to answer any questions about what the commission is working on or overall goals so thank you Mr.

▶ 16:10 Jeff McNaught: Hoff for providing that overview plan to do in FY22. I did see Councillor Thomas hand go up.

▶ 16:24 Cory Thomas: Did I miss anyone else? Okay Councillor Thomas. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hoff welcome. Thank you for the work that you're doing with the Disability Commission and the Commission on a whole. I know it's a relatively new commission in Melrose. Hearing you talk about the the needs of the community and and um an evaluation how can people in melrose uh contact the commission and and how can they reach out to you um to be heard you know and to get a evaluation in their

▶ 16:50 Speaker 5: hands okay so right now what we have is we're actually um i just um sent language to um actually um um uh karen burke um sits on that sits on the the city's um veterans um staff person uh is handling kind of getting stuff on our webpage so i send her language today to on our web page to just a simple overview and to encourage folks to contact us with any issues right now she is acting as our primary contact her phone number and email on that um we may have a further discussion about that but i've had a little i've had a discussion with her about about contacting her we are also going to work on our social media presence uh we have a copy of the social media uh guidelines and requirements for the city so we're working on that so i think that's that's a key thing is just to kind of i think awareness of the commission is really critically important i really appreciate you raising that and certainly you know resources that we can use towards that because right now it's really we feel like one of our primary roles is to uh be that conduit so if there are people have issues in the city uh people with disabilities you know we can't solve everything but we also want to be the place that people go and say look i um this building is not accessible i had trouble getting in here i'm having trouble getting services um we've had some early discussions with the with the special education parent advisory council so we want definitely to be that place that people can go to in terms of of issues that might come up that we can assist with and provide support and either try to resolve them ourselves or but in many cases serving as an information referral or frankly going to the city proper city officials and having a discussion

▶ 18:29 Cory Thomas: so sure uh mr hop when you do have your social media up and running uh please share that with the council you know i'd be happy to share that on my own individual pages as i'm sure are my colleagues on the council will be as well um you mentioned your website is that on the city of

▶ 18:43 Speaker 5: Melrose website is there a yeah we have a city with a change on the we have a page on the on the um you know we you know part of the we've had a length discussion about web issue issues but you know obviously it's my understanding that the city wants everything within their obviously all the commissions within the whole city uh structure web structure so we have right now we have a web page right now it consists of the commissioner's names and uh positions on positions so hopefully within the next few days we'll have some language there that uh in terms of our responsibilities and which are really just essentially pulled from the um from the language that that created the uh commission uh a year or so ago and then and then a little bit more about um our meetings our meeting schedule how to contact and the importance of reaching out to us with any questions or any

▶ 19:34 Cory Thomas: assistance that people might need that's great mr hop thanks so much for being here thanks for the information you were able to provide okay thank you thank you council thomas

▶ 19:45 Speaker 1: are there any questions for mr huff council Grigoraitis thank you chairman thank you mr

▶ 19:49 Jen Grigoraitis: hoff for being here and for stepping up to lead this critical group in its early phases i know you bring both a level of expertise and empathy around these issues and i'm really happy to have your leadership um and support in this community um i just want to say that i i know that you are or just at the beginning of this, and that I think this council is really happy to have this commission up and running and want to be able to be supportive as you figure out what we need and what we need to advocate for, for all of our citizens so that we can be one community open to all. And I motion to recommend the passage or to move the bottom line.

▶ 20:25 Speaker 4: I apologize. Second.

▶ 20:31 Jeff McNaught: Second. We have a motion by Councilor Grigoraitis to move the bottom line. Department 545, Commission on Disability, seconded by Councilor Thomas on discussion.

▶ 20:45 Speaker 2: Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Chair McNaught? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes.

▶ 20:55 Speaker 2: Councillor McMaster? Yes. Councillor Garipay? Yes. Councillor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councillor Migliorelli? Yes. Councillor Stewart? Yes. Councillor Thomas? Yes. Yes. Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yeah. President Cinella? Yes. And yes.

▶ 21:14 Jeff McNaught: Motion passes. Mr. Hoff, thank you again for being with us this evening.

▶ 21:18 Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity.

▶ 21:20 Jeff McNaught: Take care. And next up we have Department 161. It's the city clerk who's already in the room.

▶ 21:33 Speaker 2: Good evening, my council. It's always so interesting being on this side Of the agenda, so I am going to cover 161 city clerk, 162 election registrar and temporarily right now, 1, 1, 2 city council, my previous position. You all know who I am Kristen foot. I was appointed to the position of city clerk on May. 1st. I have been serving in the public avenue for about almost 7 years off and on in the city of Melrose. just am starting my completed my fourth year um the clerk's office is the official record keeper for the city of melrose the historian if you will we serve the public providing all vital records business licenses dog licenses and i know you don't probably don't own this but fortune teller licenses for all the circuses come to town um you know we are in charge of the elections for the city both all the elections state local and federal and uh the department has four full-time employees myself an assistant city clerk who's currently vacant a senior clerk and the elections administrator um in 2020 as you all know we saw an unprecedented election turnout i want to highly commend the election staff all the part-time workers the voter registrar voters they were amazing and the turnout for the vote was 87 percent of the population in the general election so that was amazing um it was challenging with the pandemic but the state came a lot came across with a lot of really good um helpful tools for the residents mail-in voting a lot of different things they provided so in terms of my budget the changes the the biggest changes salary and wages are just contractual and normal cost of living um the binding is up we did not do the street listing books last year we are going to print them this year i know folks really love those um the dues and fees mass town clerks association went up they do that every year and i'm also i did find out there is a specific mass city clerk association that i would really like to hone in on because we are a city and the town clerks association is great but it would be specific to the city so i'm going to look at that um printing it has reflected the cost of paper and we're going to probably print a little bit more because the vital record statistic is up everyone's Um, let's see what else we, um, the change, the biggest change probably is the elections budget. It is decreased by 15,000 dollars because of the part time employees that we hired in the last election. There's only the local this year, so we don't anticipate needing as many part time staff persons and help professional help. So, I think that's it. If you have any questions happy to answer them.

▶ 24:22 Jeff McNaught: Thank you, Madam Clerk. First up, I have Councillor Stewart, then Councillor Garipay. Did I miss anyone else?

▶ 24:32 Robb Stewart: Councillor Stewart? Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Ms. Foote, for covering a lot of the questions I already had. Very helpful for explaining the discrepancies. I think that's really one of the things that we all look at closely. And 1 of the discrepancies you didn't touch upon was the clear gov that was 6500. Last year and this year, I'm not even sure what that is, but what why is there a funding?

▶ 24:58 Speaker 2: Sure, so clear gov, as I understand it, it was a budgetary tool, similar to. Much less on a much smaller scale to what assessor Wilcox put together, but it was hosted on our website at the bottom. You could go in and type in your tax dollars, and it would allocate what those tax dollars transferred to for services and the administration made the decision. They're not going to go with clear gov anymore because they have this fabulous in house created tool. So. Why spend the 6,500 dollars right? Right. That's my understanding.

▶ 25:33 Speaker 4: Um, and so. Did that on the did you cover city council as well? You did.

▶ 25:43 Robb Stewart: I did, so I saw that license. Did that really drop.

▶ 25:46 Speaker 2: It did I negotiated a decrease because I found out there was a 3rd party administrator in there and I realized what are we spending that for when they're not really providing us with any TPA services. I'm, I was paying the bills. I worked with the vendor and said, let's cut out the middle man.

▶ 26:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's great.

▶ 26:08 Speaker 4: And then, uh, finally, you have a.

▶ 26:12 Robb Stewart: Just a small amount of advertising and just more out of curiosity. What do you spend advertising on for city council?

▶ 26:19 Speaker 2: Sure, your public hearing notices that need to go into the paper grant of locations, like, the operating budget and the, there's a. Mandated by law, you have to provide notice in the newspaper and that's costs at least 62 dollars per ad.

▶ 26:39 Speaker 4: Got it and that'll cover it. Okay.

▶ 26:45 Robb Stewart: That's all the questions I have, so thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chair.

▶ 26:52 Mark Garipay: Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I just had 1 question and it's, um, it's for both the city, uh, city council and the city clerk. office regarding education and seminars with the recent changes in both departments do you think

▶ 27:10 Speaker 2: that's going to be enough money that is a great question so uh that is a great question for city clerk i really want to focus on professional development i am a true believer like the city auditor said yesterday the better educated and proficient our workers are the better services we may provide to the city so i missed where it's just a guesstimate there's a couple of there's some town uh north shore town clerks is putting together some education so i am going to try and send folks to that i want to do some things as well so i'm hoping hoping that it's

▶ 27:46 Speaker 1: enough thank you thank you counselor mcmaster thank you mr chairman uh thank you uh miss foot

▶ 27:51 Shawn M. MacMaster: But on Councillor Garipay question, just one thing to think about is the opportunities that exist for shadowing other clerk's offices. So when you bring on and onboard an assistant city clerk, the relationships I think that you've already established and that you're starting to develop might be opportunities to get training in a way that doesn't cost us anything. but I do think Councilor Garipay raises a good point and certainly let us know if there's more that's needed so that we can advocate for that. Thank you. Councilor Grigoraitis.

▶ 28:34 Jen Grigoraitis: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Clerk Foote, for being here tonight and every other night. I just had more of a question in your 20 days as clerk thus far. Because of the changes in personnel that we've experienced both in the clerk of committees and in the city clerk's office both of which are roles that roll up to the council under the charter we've obviously had some cost savings because of salaries that we're not paying and do you have an understanding from the city of where that unexpended funding goes and also what will happen in the 20 budget if the salaries that are budgeted are not the salaries offered to new folks i know that at At least for the purpose committee's position, the posted salary is significantly lower than the salary that was budgeted for. So, I just, I wondered if you've given a sense of where that unexpected funding goes.

▶ 29:28 Speaker 2: Great question short answer is I have not, but I can, I will absolutely ask and and provide that answer to the council.

▶ 29:39 Speaker 1: Thank you any other questions for.

▶ 29:46 Cory Thomas: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, uh, quick foot. Welcome. Always. Nice to have you. Always. Nice to see you. Um, you're. The mayor's estimates for 2020 fiscal year, um, for the part time salaries and wages for the election staff. Is that based on 1 centralized polling location or is that polling locations throughout the city?

▶ 30:10 Speaker 2: Uh, in the 7 words, my understanding is there's no. Change based on location, so it's a straight. Amount to an allocation to align, regardless of how many polling locations there are.

▶ 30:25 Cory Thomas: Does that answer your question? Do those numbers add up? And I thought we were hurting for volunteers in this past election and there was a need, you know, also through the pandemic. There was a need for 1 centralized location. So, with fewer volunteers and poll workers. Would that be if there's fewer, it's a smaller election this year. It's not a state or federal election. It's a local election. Would the need be there? I apologize. Is the is the number needed. For fewer voters, the same location as it is across the city.

▶ 31:09 Speaker 2: Let me see if I understand this. So, if there's 1 central polling location versus all of the in the different awards and precincts. So, if I understand your question is, is the amount of staffing. The same, regardless and the class associated with that.

▶ 31:27 Cory Thomas: Wouldn't it be for volunteers for 1 location?

▶ 31:32 Speaker 2: Then throughout the city, actually, no, it's mandated. Each precinct and ward has to have a set amount, you know, check ins, check outs, warden clerks. So there are. Those roles remain the same, regardless of whether it's in 7 locations or 1.

▶ 31:48 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. Sure.

▶ 31:51 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thomas.

▶ 31:55 Jeff McNaught: Anyone else the 1st time? Well, I just wanted to say. Thank you, Madam clerk, because it is council Grigoraitis alluded to. You're only a few weeks into this role. We know how hard you're working. We appreciate it. We know that you're still doing the role. Of committees, and I assume doing. Performing the other vacant position in your new office, which is the assistant city clerk. Is that accurate?

▶ 32:26 Jeff McNaught: It's a team effort, right? Well, thank you. Thank you. But nonetheless, picking up a lot of extra responsibilities and. Making our lives and the residents of Melrose lives easier. And and we appreciate that. So thank you very much. Thank you.

▶ 32:43 Speaker 1: Counselor McMaster, did you have a question?

▶ 32:46 Shawn M. MacMaster: It's just Mr. chairman, I'm just wondering if it might make sense for us to consider conjoining the 3 orders before us, rather than voting on them individually. So, if if you don't object, Mr. chairman, I wouldn't move at this time to conjoin. 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 1, 12, 1, 6, 1, being the city clerk's office, 1, 6, 2, being elections and 1, 1, 2, being city council. So, the motion just to be clear is to conjoin and then if seconded and if approved, we would vote on the conjoined orders.

▶ 33:31 Jeff McNaught: So, we have a motion to conjoin. Lines 161, City Clerk, 162, Elections and Registrar, Voters, 112, City Council. Made by Council McMaster, seconded by Councilor Migliorelli. On discussion, seeing none, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll?

▶ 33:54 Speaker 2: Chair McNaught? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes, yes, yes. Yes, council. Yes, counselor Stewart. Yes, counselor Thomas. Yes. Yes.

▶ 34:19 Speaker 2: President. Yes.

▶ 34:26 Speaker 1: Yes.

▶ 34:28 Shawn M. MacMaster: Thank you Mr chairman motion to move the bottom line on the conjoined orders. 16116. 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 1, 12 2nd.

▶ 34:37 Jeff McNaught: Motion to move the bottom lines on the conjoined orders. Of 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 2, and 1, 12 made by a Councilor McMaster. Seconded by a Councilor Thomas, Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

▶ 34:51 Speaker 2: Chair McNaught? Yes. Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor Garipay? Yes. Councilor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. Councilor Stewart? Yes. Councilor Thomas? Yes. Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes. President Fenella? Yes. Eleven yes.

▶ 35:20 Jeff McNaught: Motion passes. I see a lot of 10s going up in the air. That's good. High-fives, air high-fives. I like it. I'd like to go to President Sinella. Yeah, thank you. Let me ask for a moment of personal privilege.

▶ 35:39 Christopher Cinella: Just a quick moment of personal privilege. Mayor Broderick had forgot previously to ask me to remind the public that the Melrose Youth Vaccine Clinic is tomorrow ages 12-22, from 1 30 to 3 30 um at the middle school cafeteria and um for those that are watching right now and want to learn more about signing up just go to our city of melons.org website it

▶ 36:12 Jeff McNaught: should be in the right side of the screen on your news thank you mr president um next we have i I believe Ms. Gaffey coming into the room to speak on, one moment, 175, Department 175, Office of Planning and Development.

▶ 36:37 Speaker 2: Director Gaffey, can you hear us?

▶ 36:40 Speaker 6: I can.

▶ 36:42 Speaker 7: One moment.

▶ 36:53 Speaker 6: Good evening.

▶ 36:54 Speaker 1: Good evening, Ms. Gaffey.

▶ 36:58 Speaker 6: Pleased to be here tonight. My name is Denise Gaffey. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development. And,

▶ 37:07 Denise Gaffey: I, so I support, um, and I'm in charge of a very small, but very busy, very dynamic, um, planning office as I know you all know. Um, the planning office provides long range plan, long range planning, manages the capital improvement program for the city. Reviews and recommends zoning changes applies for grants and, uh, community development programs, implement special projects. We oversee the sustainability efforts for the city. We also support several boards and commissions, including the planning board, the zoning board of appeals and the historic district commission. We review all major land use proposals in the city, including subdivisions and significant residential and commercial development proposals. And we also support the, um, or geographic information systems for the city and provide all the support for the city's mapping tool. Throughout throughout the city, so, um. We've had incredibly busy year as you all know. Um. It was extremely challenging dealing with the conditions around the pandemic. And we successfully pivoted to, um. working from home and providing access to the public um to all of our public hearings remotely um and allowed um allowed our planning board and zoning board of appeals and the historic district commission all the boards and committees to continue to meet without um without really missing any any meetings last year it was pretty amazing um and it took a lot of work um but we feel like we've been very successful in keeping our business going for the city through the year um it's a very busy year we've had lots of meetings um permitting activity is incredibly active right now um so we definitely saw quite a few quite a few cases and had quite a few meetings um some of the special projects we worked on included the um refining and creative placemaking initiative that was really exciting and a nice way with that for us to to engage with the community while people were kind of stuck at home in the early pandemic days we had a lot of participation in the survey that we did and we were really excited to be able to implement the city's first major public art initiative we've also been working on in terms of long-range planning we've been working on a housing production plan and that process is going really well we we've reported into the council a couple of times we've had a community engagement last fall and we have another community engagement coming up um in june and we should be starting to wrap up that process in the next couple of months and um which is pretty exciting for us it's um this will be you know our um our road map for housing production and in the community for the next five years and we're getting a lot of great input from residents about about what they believe the needs are and what their vision is for mellows around housing collection so we're excited about that um we've um currently have a zoning initiative we spent some time working on on zoning and uh on a creative incentive zoning tool and that is of course currently in front of in front of the council um so we look forward to continuing to see that come come to fruition and we worked quite a bit on um on our our mapping our mapping uh functionality i i think if you spend any time on the city's gis or map maps online you'll see all the great features and i think we have one of the best tools out there and that's um a credit to the work of the rgis person in the planning office she also was very helpful at the beginning of the pandemic helping with making signs and pulling some data together to support that effort and those helps effort so essentially um my planning department is um essentially the planning budget is essentially staff and the only um change of note from last year is um we're proposing to increase the amount of hours for the sustainability manager um i didn't talk much about her accomplishments but everybody knows how um how much work that martha does um in the community around sustainability she currently has been working 30 hours per week we are proposing to increase her hours by five to make her position full-time so that is essentially the um the change that you see in the budget from this year from last year to this year

▶ 42:05 Speaker 6: and um i guess that's it i'm happy to take any questions thank you director gaffey counselor

▶ 42:18 Maya Jamaleddine: gemelody i just want to thank you for all your amazing work um we had a conversation earlier today and i wanted to um you know publicly thank you uh for taking the time and explaining in details and answering all my questions. I wanted also to agree with you on the increasing of Ms. Grover. We all know that she puts way more hours than what she actually is hired for, so definitely feel that this is the right decision, hopefully.

▶ 43:06 Jeff McNaught: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Counselor.

▶ 43:11 Mark Garipay: Counselor, thank you for being here. Uh, just 1 question and I apologize if I miss this when you were speaking. How many employees in your department are you 100% funded within your budget?

▶ 43:23 Speaker 6: So, we have 5 employees. For them, our full time, we have 1 part time, the planning coordinator coordinator position is part time. That's 24 hours per week. Um, and we do grab a little bit of funding from. From grants and from, um. The for our, for some of the work. That our analyst does. Thank you.

▶ 44:03 Robb Stewart: Thank you, Councillor Gaffey. Councillor Stewart? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Ms. Gaffey for being here tonight. I would like to give you the opportunity to talk a little bit about the fact that your department has grown quite significantly over the last 5 years. If you look at the percent increases that have gone on year over year, they've been in double digits for a couple of years and I'm talking from But only a salary perspective, and it's been in the last 5 years, you've increased about 35%. Um, so, and, you know, I don't think you're giving yourself a 35% raise. So I'd like to give you the opportunity to explain to the consulate public. Some of those expanded set of responsibilities that are being funded by this increase.

▶ 44:53 Denise Gaffey: For sure, and I wish I had 35% more staffing actually, but it doesn't that doesn't add up either. No, primarily the changes that we have been. Um, we have been slowly incorporating more of our staff time onto the city budget and off of some other funding sources. So, we had, we had greater capacity in some of our grant programs. We have greater capacity in our energy incentive. Line item, and we had greater capacity and a community development fund. Um, that was a revolving fund and based on loans that were granted out. Decades ago, so those funding sources have been dwindling over the years. And so, um, so, you know, we started planning for this several years ago, working closely with the mayor's office and with the city auditor, so that it didn't. Hit the city, but it budget all at 1 time, but rather we kind of slowly increased. The amount that was carried in the general budget over the past several years. So, it so again, it's not about it has not been about additional staffing. Although, I think it could be definitely be utilized.

▶ 46:09 Robb Stewart: Great just very helpful to understand and there's got to thank you. Thank you. Mr.

▶ 46:14 Speaker 1: Thank you. I didn't see any other hands raised that. I miss anyone.

▶ 46:21 Jeff McNaught: Councilor Grigoraitis and Councilor Eccles, I have you next. Vice-Chair Eccles.

▶ 46:26 Jen Grigoraitis: Thank you, Chair McNaught. I was just going to make a motion to move the bottom line. Okay, I'm sorry, Scott.

▶ 46:32 Speaker 1: That works.

▶ 46:34 Speaker 2: Second.

▶ 46:35 Jeff McNaught: Okay. We have a motion to move the bottom line, Department 175, Planning and Development, made by Councilor Grigoraitis, seconded by President Cinella. On discussion, I'll go to Vice-Chair Eccles first, unless you were doing the same thing.

▶ 46:52 Speaker 2: Same thing. I was just going to make a.

▶ 46:54 Speaker 1: Okay, so on discussion. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll?

▶ 47:01 Speaker 2: Chair McNulloch? Yes. Vice Chair Eccles? Yes. Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor Garipay? Yes. Councilor Grigoraitis? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes, counselor Stewart. Yes. Yes.

▶ 47:23 Speaker 4: Counselor Thomas yes.

▶ 47:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. President, yes 10. yes.

▶ 47:32 Jeff McNaught: So that motion passes and that concludes. Any departments coming before us tonight on. For the 22 budget purposes. At this time, I'll entertain a motion to hold Order 2021-122 in committee.

▶ 47:53 Mark Garipay: I make a motion to hold Order 2021-122.

▶ 47:59 Speaker 8: Whatever you said, Council President, I don't have it in front of me.

▶ 48:02 Speaker 1: 122.

▶ 48:04 Speaker 8: 122, sorry.

▶ 48:07 Speaker 1: Okay.

▶ 48:08 Jeff McNaught: Second. We have a motion to hold Order 2021-122 in committee by Councilor Garipay, seconded by councillor Grigoraitis on discussion you know madam clerk please call the role

▶ 48:23 Speaker 2: chair McNaught yes vice chair eccles yes councillor mcmaster yes councillor Garipay yes councillor Grigoraitis yes councillor Migliorelli yes councillor stewart yes councillor thomas