Public Service Committee — 2023-05-08
Attendance
Christopher Cinella ; Mark Garipay ; Jen Grigoraitis ; Manjula Karamcheti ; Shawn M. MacMaster ; Robb Stewart
Agenda
- Call to Order
- Public Comment
- Appointments/Reappointments
- APPT-2023-17 : Appointment of James Donohue, 31 Gooch Street, to the Melrose Parks Commission, for a five-year term set to expire on the First Monday of May 2028.
- Requests
- REQ-2023-1 : An Order on the Status of the Replacement of Turf on the Fred Green Field
- Adjournment
Minutes
CITY OF MELROSE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE CALENDAR● MAY 8, 2023 Council Chamber, First Floor, Melrose City Hall Committee Meeting 7:30 PM 562 Main Street, Melrose, MA 02176 The public should take notice that the Melrose City Council may, on certain occasions, have a quorum in attendance due to standing committees of the City Council consisting of both voting and non-voting members. Members attending this duly posted meeting are participating and deliberating only in conjunction with the business of the standing committee. Attendee Name Title Status Arrived Robb Stewart Chair Present Christopher Cinella Vice Chair Present Mark Garipay Present Manjula Karamcheti Present Shawn M. MacMaster Absent Jen Grigoraitis President, Ex Oficio Present Non voting member present: Councilor Eccles
APPT-2023-17 Appointment Appointment of James Donohue, 31 Gooch Street, to the Melrose Parks Commission, for a five-year term set to expire on the First Monday of May 2028. Ought to Pass City Council
REQ-2023-1 Request An Order on the Status of the Replacement of Turf on the Fred Green Field Place on file City Council City of Melrose Page 1 5/12/2023 11:57 AM
Transcript
▶ 7:41 Robb Stewart: the chair of this committee. Join me, our vice chair Sin and councilors, Gar Pay Chetty President, uh, Gregory Race, exofficio and non-voting members. Uh, Eckles, uh, council Eckles. And that's it. Um, this provides notice of a quorum for the record and in accordance with the open Meeting law. This meeting is being recorded and broadcast on our local access cable channel, mtv, as well as live streamed through MTV three.org. It'll be available for future viewing through the City of Melrose's website. And on the meeting portal. And without objection, I will open the floor for public comment. This is the portion of the meeting that anyone can come forward, uh, to discuss. Any item, uh, items on the agenda.
▶ 8:34 Robb Stewart: Is there anybody in the room interested in public comment or anybody online? Uh, we're not the room online part. We're not part. Alright. Without objection. I'll close the floor for public comment. Uh, tonight we have two items on our agenda, um, and there will be, uh, an opportunity for, uh, some folks to speak. So without objection, I will, uh, make a motion to suspend the rules. Okay. No objection. The rules are now suspended. Uh, the first, um, order on docket is appointment number 2023 dash 17, the appointment of James Donahue of 31 G***h Street, uh, to the Melrose Parks Commission for five year terms set to expire on the first Monday of May, 2028. And, uh, Mr. Mayer and Mr. Donahoe, would you like to come forward and Sure.
▶ 9:35 Paul Brodeur: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. Um, I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse that I did not bring my notes. We'll just have to, uh, we'll just have to see how it goes. I would like to start by saying, um, I think you all know that, um, this nominee, um, if he's approved by the council, will be taking the place of, of John McLaughlin. I do think it's appropriate to take, uh, quite frankly, more than a moment to thank, uh, John McLaughlin and his family, quite frankly, for all that they have done. Um, certainly a lot of time and energy put into the Park Commission, but we also know, um, there, the Arts Foundation and the work, uh, John in particular did on the campaign to get the middle school, uh,
▶ 10:21 Paul Brodeur: uh, off the ground and established was a, that was, uh, a great success. Um, though I will say that sounds like it's a kind of a valedictorian, valedictorian speech, and it's not, I don't think John is, uh, going anyways still on the retirement board. And I know it's still gonna be an important, uh, factor in the community, uh, that been said. Um, I think many of you, if not all of you are familiar, uh, with Jim Donahue. Jim comes to us as a long time Melrose resident with, um, you know, active kids. Uh, it's out and about at this point, um, uh, to be sure. But, um, also comes to us with a, with an MBA from Boston University, which, you know, the, some of the, the sophisticated work that the Park Commission has to do around budgeting,
▶ 11:11 Paul Brodeur: monitoring business operations at the golf course. Um, you know, that kind of, that kind of credential I think is critically important, um, and can make a real unique contribution to the, to the work of the commission. Uh, Jim also, uh, importantly, again, I think you all note, was the president of Melrose Soccer for five years, which is, uh, yeoman's work. Uh, you probably have known Jim can give you the facts and figures on this. It is the most popular athletic program in Melrose. Probably a thousand kids, Lord knows how many families, uh, participate. So not only does Jim understand that need, and also not, not to be dismissed, is the fact that the program, um, under Jim's leadership has grown dramatically in terms of getting girls
▶ 12:04 Paul Brodeur: involved and having women, uh, involved at the coaching and organizational level as well, which is an important, uh, and I think an important milestone for the city. Uh, but he's also been through the day-to-day of, you know, we got this much need and this much place to play and navigating that, which is something we know that the Park Commission faces, uh, on a day-to-day and week-to-week basis. Um, so I really can't think of anyone who's more better qualified to take the reins. And with that, I will turn it over to Jim for, for his thoughts and comments. Thank you, Paul. So, um, as Paul said, I'm, my name is Jim Donahue, and I appreciate the opportunity to, uh, come before you today. Uh, and for your consideration of my application for the Parks Commission. Um,
▶ 12:52 Paul Brodeur: we actually, we, my wife and I, um, have lived in Melrose for 21 years at this point in time, and raised three children, uh, all of whom attended, either attended or currently attend Melrose Public Schools. Um, and we've been involved in taking use of the resources, the open space resources that the city's had to offer, um, both through active, um, recreation, through youth sports in high school, as well as passive recreation. Um, and it's been a significant part of our lives. Um, as Paul alluded, I've been an active member in the community since we've been here. Uh, in particular serving on the board of Melrose Youth Soccer for 10 years, including, uh, five years, uh, serving as president. Um,
▶ 13:35 Paul Brodeur: I stepped down about nine months ago or so, um, uh, and, uh, would view an opportunity to sit on this board on, on the Parks Commission rather as an opportunity to continue, uh, to contribute and be involved in a formal way within the community. Um, my work at Melrose Youth Soccer, um, brought an understanding and appreciation of the value of active, uh, recreation, uh, for the health and wellbeing of children and, and for their development, frankly. Um, you know, have both in terms of those who are at the highest level, but even for those who are, you know, viewing it more, um, recreationally, but still have the benefit of those experiences. Um, I think that the experience in working with Melrose Youth Soccer both gives me
▶ 14:23 that appreciation, but also, um, exposure and experience in working with a, a large and and varied group of, of, of, of children in various constituents. They're about 1300. Um, they sold a short, you sold a short 1300, um, 1300 kids, um, between kindergarten and eighth grade, participate in, uh, me's Youth Soccer. There are, um, this number's probably dated, it's probably more than this, but about 300, um, volunteer coaches as well as a board of about 15. Um, so it's a pretty involved group. Um, and I think provided some experience that, uh, that would be relevant, uh, to this, this, um, to the role in the Parks Commission. Um, I also recognize in, in value and appreciate, um, the passive recreation resources that the city brings to bear. Um, both,
▶ 15:19 Paul Brodeur: um, you know, uh, you know, as, as we see it in either the passive use of the, uh, the various open spaces that have been in discussion, I know, you know, particularly around the Noel, um, but also in, um, I think oftentimes the, um, there's not as much recognition of the value that we have in terms of the other open spaces, um, and hiking trails, et cetera, within the city. We're really extraordinarily fortunate. Um, anyway, I think those, so those are my comments. I would be happy to take any questions Before you do. I wa I, I was remiss cuz I don't, I didn't have notes in front of me. I think you're all familiar with soccer night in Melrose. Soccer night in Melrose is perhaps like the most successful new thing
▶ 16:06 Paul Brodeur: we've done in terms of family and community involvement over the last 10 years or so. And that is, to the credit of Jim, it really is a, uh, well, I think, I think you've probably all been there, but it is a, a terrific event for the entire community and builds more and more momentum for the program. Again, as Jim said, at all levels, not just the kids that might go on to, um, you know, be varsity players or boys or girls soccer, but for, for kids that might be a little bit reticent about just kind of getting out there, uh, and give it a go that has really been, you know, an extraordinary addition, uh, to our programming. I'd love to see, you know, spread out to other activities that the city sponsors.
▶ 16:52 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Donio, uh, any questions from the council? From the committee? Council Gar, thank you. Thank you Mr. Donny, for being here. Uh, what would be, uh, your first goal, uh, being on, on the, Well, I think the first goal would be to learn. Um, I recognize that I'm, you know, stepping into a new role. I think I bring qualifications that'll help me to learn quickly. But, um, but there are gaps. Other things that I know and I think I can bring a lot of, um, experience to who I've got experience in sitting on boards and, uh, negotiating contracts. But I recognize, I don't know any, I do not have experience in the operation of a golf course. Uh, and I'd need to become, um, need to learn, learn from the other members of the,
▶ 17:36 uh, of the commission, um, and, uh, go out and do my own work to become smart about the areas where I've got gaps. Um, you know, I think beyond that, I, I think that, I don't think that was yours question. I think your question was probably more in terms of the things that the Parks Commission could accomplish. Um, I think, um, one of the clear needs is, um, we've seen a significant growth not just in soccer, but also in the other sports of participation. Um, I'm most acutely aware of it in soccer, but, um, in soccer we're at the point right now where we're needing, we're, we're really at the wits end in terms of, you know, the ability to allow all kids to play. So there's not a needs test.
▶ 18:17 There's not a tryout for participating in soccer. Every kid who wants to participate does in, and they're able to participate in, uh, in meaningful ways. We don't want to get into a position where we're gonna have to start to either shorten the num, you know, shorten the number of practices, or, um, even worse thinking about having a cutoff in terms of the number of kids. So, um, we need to increase the ability to utilize the space We have to its full extent, meaning using it in a variety vari, various weather. Um, that doesn't, I'm not solving for turf, but it needs to be something that withstands weather in ways that, um, the null in particular does not now. Um, and also can be used for a longer period of time,
▶ 19:03 Mark Garipay: particularly in the fall when it gets dark early. Um, Um, one of the things that, that this council, um, approved a couple of years ago was a feasibility study. Yep. And I know it's kind of, um, been kind of stuck. It hasn't really gotten momentum, but Yep. I would love to see, um, that whatever the, whatever the results are Yeah. That we need to, to move forward because, uh, we just don't have enough fields where, you know, and they have to, we need to keep 'em open in inclement weather. Absolutely. Whether it's graph grass or turf, I prefer turf cuz I think the, you know, utilization will be up. But, um, I'd like to see the feasibility study actually. I, I would with A, with, with a, with a solution. So anything you can do to advocate that,
▶ 19:46 what you're on there would be, I would as well. I, I, you know, I I think absolutely we need to, I know that when, you know, there were a few different iterations of that when the feasibility study was first, uh, funded. Um, I was actually, uh, you know, this, I think this was like two versions ago. I was on a, um, on the, among those, um, involved in, uh, in looking at and defining what some of the needs would've been. I know that it went through some different processes. It got stalled through, you know, pandemic. And then prior to that with, uh, Rob as, as Rob was making his transition, you know, transitioned out, um, things got stalled and John Shena leaving. I think there are a number of things that, that cause things to pause,
▶ 20:26 Manjula Karamcheti: but it needs to happen. Uh, thank you. No more questions. Thank You Council Karen Charity. Hi, Mr. John, you, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Um, one of the things that I've observed, um, that happens a amongst like the Parks Commission is sometimes there are competing priorities between different organizations in terms of, you know, the four square miles that we have mm-hmm. Um, and the different things that people really want and are advocating for. So I'm just curious, when, in those situations, what is your approach, like, your philosophy for like, working with the community around issues where different groups are advocating for different things that are sometimes competing? Yeah,
▶ 21:11 I mean, I think the pro, you know, from, you know, an experience that I've had in professional life as well as, um, in, uh, in one of the things I do in professional life, I negotiate contracts, um, for, I negotiate con contracts for hospitals and health systems with payers. And so, um, there's a need to navigate, um, through different priorities and perspectives, um, and, uh, engage in a process to understand those. Also with the role, you know, with Melrose Youth Soccer, as you can imagine, there's gonna be a varied perspectives when you get that many people involved in terms of whether or not are we an organization that's about producing the best soccer players or making sure everyone can be included and, you know,
▶ 21:51 and all of the other things. And so through that, there's a process that you go through of listening to folks, of asking the questions, uh, doing it sincerely, um, um, but also adding structure to the way that you engage in the process. In terms, you know, one of the things I would think about if we were to talk about, um, the use of the, um, of the, of the Noel Fields, um, would be, um, defining what the criteria are, what are we trying to accomplish? Um, and then evaluate, um, you know, you know, which of the options that are available would meet the requirements that we have. Um, I think it becomes a lot easier if you, you know, have those criteria and the lens through which you can look through it. Um,
▶ 22:34 Jen Grigoraitis: you know, at a certain point there's also a need to make a decision cuz you're never going to fully, um, reach consensus, particularly in a body where you've got, you know, but, but I think that, but the process is important. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Thoughtful answer. Yeah. Anyone else? President, we Gregory. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you Mr. Donahue, for being here as a fellow Ward six resident. I'm thrilled to see. Thank you. Um, your resume before us? I did, while we're, we're filling in some of the gaps that you left, I just wanted to highlight, um, for those watching that you led Melrose Youth Soccer during the Covid 19 pandemic. So you were responsible for the health and safety of those 1300, um,
▶ 23:17 Jen Grigoraitis: children and 300 volunteers. So I think that's a really critical experience and lens that you bring as we talk about health and safety through a recreational perspective. Um, and also that I know you're the parent of a girls varsity soccer alum, so you have that high school experience as well. So I'm really thrilled that you've seen youth sports from K to 12. Um, and I'm thrilled to recommend you for passage by the full council. Motion to recommend Second. Who did the second. Okay. We thank you. We have a motion to, uh, recommend full council by made by President, uh, Gregory, seconded by, uh, council Kche, uh, under discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. Okay. So this will go to the full council, uh,
▶ 24:00 Robb Stewart: which I believe will be next Monday the 12th. Uh, you do not need to be there. Uh, we'll be voting on it at the full council. Great. Thank you Mr. Chairman Committee. And, uh, shall we talk more turf? That's up. Thank you very much. So we have, uh, one, request, request 2023 dash one an order on the status of the replacement of turf on the Fred Greenfield. Uh, this was sponsored by Cons Gue, president of Grigoraitis and Councilor Osky. Council Gue. Thank you Mr. Chair. Uh, we filed this order, uh, because, um, we just wanted the status on, on the replacement of the turf at the Fred Greenfield back on May 5th, 2022. We approved $600,000 of free cash. And, um, just wanna know if, if it's gonna be completed for the school year,
▶ 24:54 Mark Garipay: um, starting, uh, in September. Um, there's a lot of expenses that, uh, if this isn't completed, there's a lot of expenses that could be incurred by the athletic department with buses and, um, uh, way games. Uh, also we've, um, I believe have held off on all camps for the summer in order to get this done. So, uh, we kind of just wanted the status on, on where we are on this, where it's been out there for about a year. Thank you, counsel. Gabriel, we, uh, rules are still suspended. Uh, if Ms. Be you wish to come forward and speak. Are we All right. So, an update on Fred Green. So we, we are, um, about to go out to bid on May 22nd. The bids are due back on June 21st. The, um, the, um, materials have been ordered.
▶ 26:02 So we're all set with that. Um, I spoke to Field Turf today. They see still no issue with the materials coming in on time. Um, there's been a process that we've been working through to get to this point. Um, in November, we reached out to Weston and Sampson, um, to get a scope of work with the fees. We had a kickoff meeting in January to do the project scope, the schedule and permitting. Um, we went over the scope of work with conservation in February and any questions, um, that Eric, we spoke with Eric Devlin, the cons conservation agent. Um, any questions that he thought that they might have, we incorporated into the application to them. So all those questions were answered. Um, we, um, the materials were, like I said, um, field testing,
▶ 26:56 the soil testing in the, um, 75% progress review was done in April. So that's kind of where we are. Mm-hmm. If you guys want, if you have anything you want to add, This is Amanda from Austin, Samson, Arkansas. Hello Everyone. Um, so the, we're gonna be submitting the permit, the permittings on, uh, May 22nd, and then the actual hearing is on June 15th. A few things can come out of that. So if approved, they could either issue the order of conditions that night and then there will be a 10 day, um, business day Grace period for a butters to appeal. Or they have a 20, if they approve it, they have a 21 day, um, period to issue it. And then an additional 10 on top of that. So once it's issued, we can award the contract we are anticipating because all of the material
▶ 27:52 materials are here, um, a very short construction period of between four to six weeks. Um, so if we can get the contract awarded, depending on that timeframe of, uh, getting bids in, and then how long it takes the city to award the contract, um, we should be able to begin construction in late July and, and hopefully mid to late July. And then, um, have it done for September. That's update. Okay. Thank you. Any questions from the committee? Wanna go first? No. Council Gar. Thank You. Um, mid to late July does not. No. And I don't think we're anticipating, I think we're anticipating of the, um, conservation being on board with us, so that Yeah, that was worst Case scenario. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. That was the worst case scenario. That's if,
▶ 28:48 Mark Garipay: if the Conservation Commission takes the full 21 days and then the 10 day appeal period. But we don't anticipate that. How I'm just, how come this wasn't sent out to bid earlier? We've had a year and now it seems like we're scrambling to get this completed before the start of school. Why wouldn't this have been sent out early? Why wouldn't the bid have been sent out a few months back? Why wouldn't we have already, um, received a bid and gone through the Conservation Commission at that time? I, I think that honestly, we knew that the, the bill period was gonna be the summer. So we knew that that's the dates that we were shooting for. I had a couple completions on some other projects. I don't think there's,
▶ 29:36 I think that we're right where we should be. I mean, we're, if everything, if the submissions go in conservation approves, which we've had the conversation with them, it's a replacement. We're not doing anything differently. We're not changing grades. We're not, um, that we will have, we're shooting for a July 1st. Mm-hmm. And then it's a full week. So we will be right where we're supposed to be. And when we say the, say it's six weeks field installed, lined everything, so all the sports are ready to go on that. All the lines are embedded into it. Okay. So it comes, it comes that way. And depending upon which company we get, field Turf is a company that we have used that put in the, the initial field right now, and it's a four week turnaround.
▶ 30:22 Winchester just did theirs. It was a four week turnaround. So that's kind of the, the window that we're shooting for. If we don't, if field turf is not the bidder who's awarded the contract, is there any possibility that it will not be six weeks or, I mean that's what I'm, that's, I'm just worried I'm, I I think that's the norm. The normal is a four week turnaround, no matter who's doing it. Um, I think we've also found there are only a couple, only a couple companies who specialize in this. It tends to be the same handful of bidders. Mm-hmm. Um, for the installation of these. So, you know, the, there's very little risk in some, you know, fly by night company coming in who doesn't know what they're doing.
▶ 31:08 Mark Garipay: It's a very specialized application. So, Um, we're also gonna be specifying that they need to have installed x like 10 amount, 10 previous 10 to 15 previous synthetic turf fields. Um, and there's a whole list of criteria that they need to meet in order to even, uh, be able to install it. And if they don't meet that criteria, then they need to, um, provide a subcontractor that does meet that criteria In the bid. Then let goes, oh, can we put some sort of, uh, language in there that, uh, if they're not within the four to six weeks, that there is some penalties because yes, we're as a community going to incur penalties with additional transportation. Uh, they're gonna have to reschedule, uh, games. And that's,
▶ 31:51 Jen Grigoraitis: That's it's standards standard in the contract. Okay. All right. I think it's the same as Boston, right? I think we're looking at $500 a day that, yeah. Okay. President. Oh, do you have more Questions? So we feel comfortable midap April when, when the kids are back, that they'll be playing on that field August. I do. Thank you. President Gregory Reds, Thank you for being here. Um, just a few follow up questions from some of what you offered. I know, um, that you mentioned that there's very few companies that do this work, given that, are we concerned about their capacity to take us on? Just to kind of echo Counselor Gee's comments that since we haven't gone out to bid, there's only so many vendors, there's only so many weeks in July. Um,
▶ 32:38 Jen Grigoraitis: do we have assurances that there's actually gonna, these companies have the capacity on their schedule to meet what feels like a really, um, tight timeline? We, we know that at least one company does. And so, you know, any responsible bidder, if they can't show that they can meet the requirements, we don't have to accept their bid. Um, so we anticipate getting at least one bidder who we know can meet that schedule. And then hopefully we'll get more so that the pricing is competitive. Okay. And then, um, in terms of being able it to be a four week turnaround, is that in any way impacted by weather? If we have significant rain like we had last week, for example? I, I wouldn't think so. No. No. Okay. And then, um, obviously in July and August,
▶ 33:25 many of the high school teams have, I think they're Captain's par. I don't know what the right terminology is, but those, I know those fields are in use that are, isn't just the recreation department, are all of those, I've already come up with Plan B for all the day camps that we have done at Fred Greenfield during the summer. Um, the nighttime schedules have not been accommodated. Um, I've accommodated up until July 1st, which is my anticipation that it'll go offline. Okay. Um, and it's mostly adult leagues. It's not so much the kids that are out there at night. Um, the high school, um, there's, there's a, there's a few that have games out there that were, were making accommodations across the street,
▶ 34:04 Robb Stewart: which we normally wouldn't put people on grass fields during the summer, but because of this, we would. But for the most part, all day camps, anything that we have running down there, um, eight to eight to three has been accommodated. Okay. And what about, I know there's, um, like, or like 5 30, 6 o'clock in the morning, some of the like soccer team practice? Yeah. We can put, there's lots of places for them to go. Yeah. Okay. Between Pine banks, east? No. West? No. Okay. Thank you. Those are my questions. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions from the committee? I have, uh, a couple questions myself actually. Um, you had mentioned a hearing, the public hearing on June 15th. Uh, will that be posted and published in local newspapers and so forth?
▶ 34:49 Robb Stewart: Yeah, that's, that will be a regular hearing of the Conservation Commission. So it would follow all the normal posting and abutters notices and everything. Okay, great. Great. And, uh, I wanna honor one of the questions that, uh, cons made. Uh, when this first came to us, it was regarding the, uh, recycling of the old turf. Uh, can you talk a little bit about what the plans are for that? So, uh, we had discussion about early on, about the infill and about the carpet. So fortunately, and I don't remember where we were in the process at the time, the last time we were here, but fortunately, all of our testing has revealed that the infill material, it still drains properly and it's still in good condition.
▶ 35:31 So we'll be reusing the infill. So there's no need for recycling. I know know, at one point we were talking about, you know, if we were to specify that that had to be recycled, it was gonna add, i I wanna say it was $60,000 or something to the, to the price because it had to be transported to somewhere out west where they actually recycle it. Um, so that's now off the table because we're reusing the crumb rubber that's there in terms of the carpet. Um, we did deem that that was too significant of a cost increase to require the recycling of the carpet. So we don't have anything specific in the specification other than they have to dispose of it properly. I dunno if you have anything to add? No,
▶ 36:14 That's, yeah, that's pretty much It. Yeah. So, you know, we didn't find a, a good market or good use for the, um, recycling of the carpet, so that's not part of the project. Thank you, Ms. Progra. Um, one following question on that, if the infield is gonna be reused, does that lower the cost? Yes. By how much? It's, We got a credit. Yeah. It's not as significant as you would expect it was 50,000 if that. 30 I think 30. Yeah. So We got a 30,000, like a $30,000 credit. Okay. So what we're gonna do is that material that's, uh, gonna be, you know, taken offsite, put aside, put back in, they do all the testings, um, to make sure that they meet the concussion protocol, all that stuff. And then they'll refill it up to where it needs to be.
▶ 37:00 Robb Stewart: Great. Great. And, and what happens to that 30 k? It's within the budget. Okay. Okay. Great. I guess If we have extra though, what's what? It's, it'll be fencing. Fencing, yeah. Super. Any other questions? What is the Royal committee motion to place on file? Second. We have a motion to place on file by counsel Gar, seconded by Vice chair son on discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. This is placed on file. Thank you very much all for, uh, coming here. That concludes our agenda. What is the will of the committee? Motion of Jared? Second. Second. We have a motion to adjourn by vice chair sin Seconded by President Rigor on discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? We are adjourned.