Health, Education & Welfare Committee — 2020-05-04
Attendance
Jack Eccles ; Jen Grigoraitis ; Maya Jamaleddine ; Shawn M. MacMaster ; Jeff McNaught ; Leila Migliorelli
Agenda
- Call to Order
- Public Comment
- Orders
- ORDER-2020-81 : Appointment of Karen Grant Blackburn, 15 Lodge Ave., to the Melrose Commission on Women for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023
- ORDER-2020-82 : Appointment of Carol Ann Licitra, 308 East Foster St., to the Board of Health for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023
- ORDER-2020-80 : Reappointment of Daniel O'Neill, 340 Main St., #703, to the Cemetery Commission for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023.
- Adjournment
Minutes
CITY OF MELROSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & WELFARE COMMITTEE CALENDAR● MAY 4, 2020 Web-based remote meeting Committee Meeting 7:00 PM , Melrose, MA 02176 The public should take notice that the Melrose City Council may, on certain occasions, have a quorum in attendance due to standing committees of the City Council consisting of both voting and non-voting members. Members attending this duly posted meeting are participating and deliberating only in conjunction with the business of the standing committee. Attendee Name Title Status Arrived Jack Eccles Chair Present Maya Jamaleddine Vice Chair Present Shawn M. MacMaster Voting Present Jeff McNaught Voting Present 7:04 AM Leila Migliorelli Voting Present Jen Grigoraitis President, ex oficio Present
ORDER-2020-81 Appointment Appointment of Karen Grant Blackburn, 15 Lodge Ave., to the Melrose Commission on Women for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023 Recommend Passage City Council
ORDER-2020-82 Appointment Appointment of Carol Ann Licitra, 308 East Foster St., to the Board of Health for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023 Recommend Passage City Council
ORDER-2020-80 Appointment Reappointment of Daniel O'Neill, 340 Main St., #703, to the Cemetery Commission for a three-year term; said term to expire on the last day of February 2023. Recommend Passage City Council City of Melrose Page 1 Updated 5/12/2020 3:33 PM
Transcript
▶ 0:00 Jack Eccles: The hour being 7 o'clock on May 4th. This is the meeting of the Health, Education, and Welfare Committee. I'm Councilor Jack Eccles, the Chair. Joining me are Vice Chair, Councilor Jamaleddine, and voting members, Councilor McMaster, Councilor Migliorelli, and President Garibaitis, and non-voting members, Councilor Tramontozzi, Councilor Thomas, and Councilor Fenella. this provides notice of a quorum for the record um pursuant to governor baker's march 12 2020 order suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law and the governor's march 15th order imposing strict limitation on the number of people that may gather in one place this meeting of the health education welfare committee will be conducted via remote participation to the
▶ 0:43 Jack Eccles: greatest extent possible who post audio or video recording transcript or other comprehensive record of these proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting on the city of melrose website and mmtv3.org public comment is also always encouraged by emailing city council at cityofmelrose.org at this time i look favorably upon a motion to open a public comment some moved second Thorp a motion to open public comment moved by councilor master second by councillor gemaldi and madam clerk of committees will you please call the role councillor sanella yes council Garipay council of Grigoraitis yes this is the members of the committee i'm sorry you're ready yeah yep council of Jamaleddine i think we lost i just unmuted you no she's there i just unmuted you
▶ 1:44 Jack Eccles: counselor Jamaleddine can you hear us i think our bandwidth is low okay counselor Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor McNaught? Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. President Grigoraitis? Yes. Four yes and one pending. Perfect. The floor is now open for public comment. If anyone who is wishing to speak for the public comment portion, not the nominees for tonight's agenda, any member of the public would speak on any agenda please raise your hand can digitally raise your hand for members in the attendee list Thorp nobody raising their hand okay seeing none would favorably have a motion to close public comment motion to close public comment second motion to close public comment made by councillor Migliorelli and second by councillor
▶ 2:53 Jack Eccles: mcmaster uh madam clerk can you please call the roll mute you're muted kristen counselor Jamaleddine yes counselor mcmaster yes counselor mcnaught counselor Migliorelli yes president Grigoraitis yes chair eccles yes or yes five yes i don't know if you heard me kristen i did not counselor echoes you are chairman okay can you hear us jack okay so the first order on tonight's agenda is order 2020-81 appointment of karen grant blackburn 15 lodge ave to the melrose commission on women for a three-year term said to expire on the last day of february 2023 at this time i look favorably upon a motion to suspend the rules to hear from the nominee and members of the administration motion to suspend the rules
▶ 4:10 Paul Brodeur: just spend the rules made by councilman masters second by vice chair Jamaleddine uh madam clerk can you please call the roll council Jamaleddine yes council mcmaster yes council mcnaught yes council mcgliarelli yes president Grigoraitis yes chair eccles yes five yes so it looks like we have mayor broder and karen grant blackburn with us tonight so whoever would like to lead out first i think that i think that would be me um karen turn on your camera if you can when you get a chance uh so i am uh i am very pleased to recommend uh karen blackburn for your consideration uh to serve on the melons commission on women as you all know uh this is a commission that got off the ground several years ago under the leadership of
▶ 5:07 Paul Brodeur: um then older woman jennifer lemmerman and it is a commission that has served the city well uh since it was since it was started um i i regret that i didn't bring this nomination forward earlier because i know that karen has spent probably over the past year or so being involved in the day-to-day work of the commission and is anxious to take a more formal role she certainly has a career. She managed to graduate from BU, something that I did not manage to do. I had to move on from BU. But in addition to that academic success, she has done some work in politics, but also extensive work in leadership of nonprofits that are designed to engage the community. And she's done that in prior roles here in Melrose, particularly with the Melrose
▶ 6:03 ed foundation and i think she's going to be a terrific addition bringing that experience to the miller's commission on women so i appreciate your consideration and urge uh unanimous support for um her nomination and her service thank you awesome um karen would you like to say a few words i'm gonna unmute you karen oh great so i don't have the power to do that i i like not having to be in charge of anything right now thank you mayor broder and thank you chair eccles and thank you to the rest of the committee as the mayor shared um not quite a full year but i have attended um as a non-voting member a handful of commission meetings um since the summer and one of the reasons i was really drawn to this
▶ 7:03 opportunity was because of my passion really for women and children and so when I first learned of a vacancy at the Commission I thought wow wouldn't that be great to have a role in creating some programming that can not only support and help to raise up some of the accomplishments and find solutions for some of the challenges that women and girls are facing in our community but wouldn't it be a great opportunity to be a connector intergenerationally? I shared this with Chair Eccles on Friday when he wanted to make sure I knew about all the tech aspects of what will be happening tonight. And I was really excited. First, as a mom of two daughters, I'm quite passionate in my fierceness for them to be able to navigate a world that's deserving
▶ 7:57 of them. And so when I think about the opportunity with the council, I think not only about my girls and their friends and girls who are, you know, their ages, but also, you know, what are we doing to support women who are now stay-at-home moms who used to be rock stars professionally, and right now with their kids in school, they're just sort of like, what do I do with myself now? Then I think about women who are aged out of the workforce, who have tons of experience and expertise that they'd love to share. How are we tapping into what they have to offer and connecting them to young women and girls in our community and to some of these stay-at-home moms who are trying to figure out how to either re-enter the workforce or to do something else that's going to make them
▶ 8:48 Shawn M. MacMaster: feel productive and worthwhile so i just think Thorp tons of opportunities with the commission and i'd be honored to serve councilman master thank you mr chairman uh good evening mayor good evening uh miss blackburn thank you uh for being here and uh miss blackburn thank you for your your interest in serving the city of melrose i'm always pleased when i see a fellow ward 5 resident step up and take an interest in serving on any of our commissions and boards i'm familiar with some of your professional work and your reputation um you know i've also looked at your resume which is very impressive i'm wondering miss blackburn if you could talk a little bit about how you see some of your professional experience at cradle for crayons and uh
▶ 9:36 formerly at the office of the child advocate being transferable to um the women's commission Sure. When I think about my time at Cradles to Crayons right now, the commission is very similar to a nonprofit organization. Right now, one of the pieces of work that I'm leading at Cradles to Crayons is a strategic planning process so that we can figure out how we can deploy what we do to serve more kids nationally. So right now across the country, there are roughly 22 million children who are at risk for clothing insecurity, meaning that these are kids who don't have the basic necessities that they need to be successful in life. All the things that many of our kids take for granted, sadly. And as part of that process of figuring out how an organization
▶ 10:32 with brick and mortar in three cities is able to scale nationally. It's really taking the best of what we do, figuring out how to leverage technology to do more of it, figuring out how we can take some risk, be innovative, and how we then put together an operational plan, an implementation plan to operationalize that and put it against a timetable with milestones and benchmarks and everything to be poised for success when i think about the women's commission i think it's largely the same so the women's commission has been in startup mode for the past few years Thorp been some turnover in the chair role and i think as a group they're still trying to figure out their footing they're still trying to figure out exactly who they need to be in melrose and what they
▶ 11:25 really need to offer so i look at i look at it as an opportunity to bring a strategic lens to the work making sure that it's one thing to have really wonderful engaging events and programming but how is it fitting into helping us achieve our end goal so how are we helping women and girls in the city of melrose how are we advancing um the cause how are we educating people not only with the good that's happening but also educating on things that need to be better and so for me It's taking what's been done for the last few years and building on that foundation and helping to develop a strategy so that Thorp a path forward for the commission. Thank you for that answer. And one of the things that I'm very impressed with is the fact that you've been attending
▶ 12:13 Shawn M. MacMaster: the meetings already. So you have a sense of what goes into participating on a commission, the ideas that have been presented and are being discussed, and perhaps most importantly is you know the skill set of those who, you know, who are currently on the commission. So I'm wondering, are there any particular areas of interest or any skills that you have that you think will complement good work being done by the commissioners who are currently serving the city? It's a great question. At the heart, I'm a planner, and from the meetings that I've attended, there are lots of amazing ideas of things that we'd like to do, and I would like to be able to bring my planning skills to help weave them together into a roadmap that a roadmap that makes sense
▶ 12:59 Jen Grigoraitis: so that at any point in time anyone on the commission knows exactly what we're doing today what we need to be doing next week and what we should be doing a year from now and how it all works to meet our end goal great thank you i look forward to supporting your nomination this evening and mayor birder i'd like to thank you for advancing ms blackburn's name thank you thank you president Grigoraitis thank you and thank you mayor broder and thank you ms blackburn for being here i don't have a question i just wanted to state for the record that i i've had the distinct pleasure of knowing you personally and having an opportunity to serve with you on the winthrop pto and also on the board of the melrose education foundation i
▶ 13:39 Leila Migliorelli: know firsthand that you are a rock star i am so excited for what you're going to bring to this commission and i just want to thank you for stepping up to continue to serve your community thank you that's very sweet of you thank you counselor Migliorelli thank you chairman um thank you miss blackburn for being here um tonight i uh have also known you for a while but looking at your resume um is quite impressive so i feel really lucky that we're going to have someone with your um depth and breadth of knowledge in the nonprofit world public service and women's issues um joining the commission um i was wondering you know as a former commission member on the human rights commission myself i think one of the areas we struggle with is um getting the community
▶ 14:28 engaged you know not hearing from the same people um and so just wondering given your experience um in in doing that what kind of ideas might you have for the women's commission it's it's a great question and it's something thankfully that the commission as a whole is trying to tackle uh we We did an event around the Harvard edX display of artifacts, and there was a lot of work put into organizing this event. And it was a lovely event, but there were probably a dozen people there. And really what we've come to realize is that we're talking to the same handful of people. We haven't, if you were to ask those people in Melrose, they have no idea that Thorp a Women's Commission. And then the ones who do know Thorp a women's commission, they couldn't tell you what the
▶ 15:17 mandate is and what its purpose is. And so one of the things that we're hoping to tackle is reaching out to a whole slew of individuals to educate them on the fact that there is a women's commission and what the mandate is and how they can get involved. So in some ways, imagine just a very basic grassroots. How do we reach out to the masses? How do we tout our successes? do we just share information about what it is that we're doing and it's realizing that we can't just leverage traditional channels we you know Thorp really no point to just putting things on Facebook if it's closed to just the people who follow the Commission on Facebook so how are we leveraging events that are open to all to help get that message out so we're really trying to
▶ 16:03 Jeff McNaught: figure out how do we tap into existing structures to broaden our reach thank you I just wanted to echo some of my colleagues sentiments and thank you chairman thank you mr. mayor for nominating this Blackburn and thank you for being here tonight and going forward I find your resume to be beyond impressive and how lucky we are to have you working on the Women's Commission so thank you you have my full support thank you very much motion to recommend for passage mr chair Thorp a motion second motion to recommend uh for passage coming from councillor master second by vice chair Jamaleddine uh madam quickly please call the role you're muted person councillor Jamala Dean yes McMaster not yes really yes president
▶ 17:10 Jack Eccles: Grigoraitis yes chair Eccles yes yes congratulations miss Blackburn you'll be voted on later at the full council that you don't need to stay for that thank you all so much I really hope to have the opportunity to serve and to do some good in the city so thank you bring in the next candidate so the next item on our agenda is order 2020-82 appointment of Carol Ann Lisitra 308 East Foster Street to the Board of Health for a three-year term said term to expire on the last day of February 2020 it looks like we have still the mayor and miss and Mr. True or Ms. Lisa True with us as well thank you Mr. chairman again I appreciate the opportunity to bring forward an outstanding nominee you may think to yourself in the current
▶ 18:04 Paul Brodeur: state of affairs who would possibly want to sign up for a for a tour duty on the on the board of health but I will say this we got a tremendous amount of interest in this both before and and as the COVID epidemic started to come on the radar and really got an outstanding cross-section of candidates. The reason why I'm bringing forward Ms. Lucitra is to fill a role in terms of mental health. So we have, as you all know, we have a doctor and a nurse on the commission and in this present time and going forward, We all know how much an important part of our work is going to be making sure that both physical and mental health is a part of what we do in terms of meeting community needs. We've talked about it before COVID
▶ 19:01 Paul Brodeur: in the context of general services and also around anxiety throughout our school system and how to deal with that in particular. There will be ongoing challenges, non-COVID related, that we still have to keep our eye on, and I am confident that Ms. LaCitra will do that. She has a tremendously interesting background in that she was a professional banker or VP at, I want to say, Bay Bank before she changed careers and went into mental health and counseling. and in particular I want to draw your attention to her time at the Fenway Community Health Center which is a tremendous place that really deals with a lot of challenges with safety net and providing a full spectrum of services to make sure that people are getting getting what they need mental health
▶ 19:58 being an important part of that so I am delighted to bring forward her nomination and urge her swift confirmation so she can be a commissioner at Wednesday night's Board of Health meeting. Carol can you hear us? I can I'm also on video can you see me or am I not? You're not visible do you have a little there should be a bunch of buttons at the bottom of your screen the second one if your access laptop is a video. Okay it says um you can't connect your webcam okay I might if you can give me one second I might have just need to close out of another app sorry about that okay should be okay in a second I'm not technologically savvy but I do promise hi okay well thank you very much mayor Broder and their Eccles and as you said I it's interesting that this is all
▶ 21:10 happening at such a time. I was interested in the board prior to coronavirus upsetting our lives, but it felt even more urgent, obviously, over these past several weeks. So, yes, as the mayor said, I do have an interesting background in that I didn't start out in mental health, although my role in the banking world was really one of client relations. And over my almost 20-year tenure there, I actually just came to understand that what I really liked about banking wasn't banking, but it was about the people and working as part of a team, part of a community. We actually provided services to municipalities throughout the state, in particular their retirement systems. So I often had the charge of meeting with the boards or with the administrative
▶ 22:04 of staff and really making relationships the center of what work we did with them. So I found at that time that you can really accomplish a lot by establishing good relationships. And after my own health crisis in the mid-90s, I decided to go back to grad school. I was out of work with the bank for a while, and I just realized that I wanted to focus more of my energy on the people aspect and on giving back to the health care community, because it helped me greatly through my struggle. So I did that. And as the mayor said, I worked at a community health center for several years when I first became a counselor. I worked in the medical social work department, even though I'm not technically a social worker, but the role
▶ 22:52 really suited me. And we work primarily with AIDS patients, although it was a community health center and we did see you know many a broader population including addictions and whatnot but my role was really to sort of not only case manage these cases but to bring the teams together that were needed to really address all of the issues including you know the medical needs the community needs and mental health needs as well so when this opportunity came along I kind of felt that I had a lot of of the right qualifications to sort of join a community um effort to you know again work as part of a team and bring together some of these things that I had have seen and worked on in the past I've been in private practice since um about 2005 I work I currently
▶ 23:49 have a practice here in Melrose and while I love working with my individual and family clients I do really do miss being part of an organization, a larger organization, and working with a multidisciplinary team. So I think that that's something that we'll really enjoy, given the opportunity, and that I'll really bring a lot to that aspect of the work. So thank you for your consideration, and that's pretty much my shtick. Thank you. President Galerios? Thank you. Thank you. As the counselor for Ward 6, I'm thrilled to have you here this evening and to support your nomination. And I think having someone with your depth and breadth of mental health services is going to be a critical addition to the Board of Health.
▶ 24:38 Maya Jamaleddine: I think the mental health effects from this crisis are going to be long-reaching in a way that none of us have ever experienced, and I'm just very grateful to you for offering your time and talent to such a crucial commission here in the city. So, thank you. Thank you. Vice Chair Trimaldi. Thank you, Chair. Thank you so much, Ms. El-Setra, for stepping up and I really appreciate everything you did and I'm impressed with the background as well. What is the most important thing that you feel that the community and our city should focus on, especially after this pandemic, knowing that a lot of individuals will be suffering from PTSD, from a lot of mental health issues? Yeah, I think one of the things I'm seeing daily, not only in our own
▶ 25:40 family lives, but in the people I work with, is it sounds very simple, but it's really quite challenging, just the aspect of readjusting. Almost every day since this has come about in our lives, we're readjusting to the smallest things and to the biggest things. Everything we do, the way we spend our days, the way we teach our children. And I'm finding that the longer this goes on, the level of anxiety is increasing. It's very difficult to live in a time where Thorp so much uncertainty. I think we all know that, but I think we don't know, as you've intimated, the long-reaching results of such an adjustment. So what I try to do with the people I'm working with currently is to really help them put that into perspective. It's not about quickly figuring
▶ 26:35 out what we have to do today to get through the day, although that is important. I think this will be something that we will slowly have to continuously reassess as we start to move back being again involved in our work outside the home in our community in the services our community brings so I think it is yet to be known what that will be but as you said PTSD anxiety depression how do people reconnect when we're supposed to not be connecting so those are some of the of my areas of interest that i think will be very important to address together with the board and the city thank you thank you big master thank you mr chairman good evening mrs licitor appreciate you being here and thank you for your willingness to serve um you mentioned some uh
▶ 27:29 Shawn M. MacMaster: hiv aids related work was that clinical work that you did um when you were in graduate school no No, that was after graduate school. I did an internship at Fenway for a year, but then I was hired there. So I worked there for, I believe it was about seven years. So my clinical work was counseling and was case management related. I also ran some groups, support groups and therapy groups for patients. Again, not just HIV and AIDS, although that was primarily my caseload, but general population and other medical issues that people have. And what was the area of study that you focused on in graduate school and was there a clinical placement or a thesis that gives us some sense of your interest beyond some of the things that you've already talked about?
▶ 28:22 Yeah, the other internship I did was at a cancer support group establishment rather that offered support groups. to folks living with cancer. So my interest in grad school was working with people who had terminal illness. So I majored in a counseling, straight individual counseling. Can't think of the word I'm looking for, but in any event, it was a clinical mental health in individual counseling. They offered, I went to Lesley University for that degree, earned a master's. We didn't do a thesis or a research project at that time. It was mostly the actual internship experience that we focused on. I also worked at Simmons College for a part of my internship year doing college counseling. So I worked again in a really multidisciplinary
▶ 29:18 Shawn M. MacMaster: type of a setting, but focused on individual work with students at the time. Thank you. And one of the things that Fenway Community Health is known for is its work with the LGBTQ community. I'm wondering whether or not you've had an opportunity to work at all at Fenway Health with that community and then based on some of the schoolwork that you just referenced, if you have really any ideas or thoughts on ways that the Board of Health might be able to work collaboratively with some other departments in terms of raising awareness with the public or in terms of prevention? With the LBGTQ community? Yeah, especially LGBTQ, yes. Yes, well, I'm a lesbian and we have a child and we are part of this community.
▶ 30:11 And when we moved to Melrose years ago, not knowing it, I was very surprised and encouraged by the rich community there already is here in Melrose. So we've been involved. I've been involved personally in some of those efforts, you know, Pride Month and whatnot, but nothing specific to helping in the mental health area. But, of course, that would be an area of interest of mine. I do. My caseload, in fact, includes quite a bit of both families and individuals in the community, both in Melrose and outside, but in the gay community. So, I don't have anything in particular off the top of my head that I've been thinking about. I've been really more focused on the medical aspect, but certainly open to exploring those concerns.
▶ 31:01 Shawn M. MacMaster: Thank you. I think, you know, historically, the Board of Health, by virtue of what it does, is very reactive to what may be happening at a particular time in which it needs to invest itself. And there may be opportunities for us to identify some important public health related issues work across other city departments. And, you know, and along with the mayor to maybe raise some awareness at an early point before an issue may spiral where we have to intervene. You mentioned your multidisciplinary work, which I think is very impressive. One of the things about the field of public health, as you know, is it's all encompassing. It's very broad. So whether it's a virus like COVID-19 or an issue like domestic violence, misuse, biohazard or waste spills or food safety in restaurants, any number of issues.
▶ 31:59 Shawn M. MacMaster: And certainly, we can never expect one person to be an expert on all of those issues. But knowing that at any particular meeting, you might be dealing with an issue with which you maybe don't have a level of expertise. How would you look to approach issues that maybe are not within your comfort level and maybe, you know, something new for you? Yeah, well, I'm really glad you brought that question up because that was one of my, you know, sort of going into this. I realized, you know, while I do have a range of experience and I'm a little bit on the older side, So I have life experience as well. I certainly don't know everything about how a city functions, how a city operates or the needs of its community.
▶ 32:42 But again, that's an area for me that kind of is I welcome that. I'm curious. I want to know about what people want, need. That's how I approach my work, actually. You know, I don't assume that I know what somebody's needs are or even what they're feeling without really giving them a chance to explore and explain that together. So that's what I loved about working as part of a team is that everybody brings something and you really can accomplish a lot. So I would approach that just in the same way. I would be interested in learning, being open to different opinions and thoughts about things, and really being able to sort of put that all in the mix and come to an understanding through that. I hope that answers your question.
▶ 33:29 Jack Eccles: it does thank you very much and i look forward to supporting your nomination this evening thank you very much any other uh voting or non-voting members for the first time well i i am excited to support your nomination as well miss blackburn we spoke on the phone briefly on friday so um at this time i'll get my notions on the floor motion to recommend for passage second motion to recommend for passage came from councillor mcnaught second by councillor McLaurelli. Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor McNaught? Yes. Councilor McLaurelli? Yes. President Grigoraitis? Yes. Chair Eccles? Yes. Five yes. Congratulations, Ms. LeCitra. This will be voted on later tonight at the full
▶ 34:28 Paul Brodeur: council meeting. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time and your questions. Thank you. Thank you. thank you um the next and last item on tonight's agenda is order 2020-80 reappointment of daniel o'neill 340 main street number 703 to the cemetery commission for a three-year term set to expire on the last day of february 2023 uh mayor bretter do you have some word staff for that some brief comments uh so you all probably know chief o'neill he uh zamelo's police officer for virtually his entire professional career uh ended up as acting chief when before we transitioned um over to a permanent chief and has always been a terrific leader in the community always very engaged um he this is a reappointment he is currently serving as chair
▶ 35:21 Paul Brodeur: has done an outstanding outstanding job um and has personally communicated to me his willingness to serve another term and his desire to i think if you check in with uh your colleague councilor Garipay who served on the um cemetery commission before his service on the council in case you didn't know about that and he um i know i i don't want to speak for him but i know he very much enjoyed his service with the chief and um should you because this is a reappointment he is not before you today he has expressed me that he is happy to appear um should you desire to have a a dialogue with him uh but does look forward to his uh another term of service thank you for your consideration i'd like to motion for passage
▶ 36:14 Jack Eccles: I have a motion to recommend for passage from Councilor Migliorelli, seconded by Councilor McNaught. Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Councilor Jamaleddine? Yes. Councilor McMaster? Yes. Councilor McNaught? Yes. Councilor Migliorelli? Yes. President Grigoraitis? Yes. Chair Eccles? Yes. five yes that concludes all items on tonight's agenda is there a motion to adjourn motion no adjourn to adjourn made by councillor McNaught second by vice chair Jamala Dean madam clerk you please call the roll councillor Jamala Dean yes councillor McMaster yes McNaught yes councillor Migliorelli yes president Grigoraitis Yes. Chair Eccles? Yes. Five yes. This meeting is adjourned. I'm going to shut up the recording