Appropriations & Oversight Committee — 2014-07-28
Attendance
Jaclyn L. Bird ; Robert A. Boisselle ; Donald L. Conn Jr. ; Scott M. Forbes ; Gail Infurna ; Jennifer L. Lemmerman ; Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis ; Monica C. Medeiros ; Peter D. Mortimer ; John N. Tramontozzi ; Francis X. Wright Jr.
Agenda
- Call to Order
- Public Participation
- Orders
- ORDER-2015-8 : Authorization to Bond $60,000 to Fund Feasibility Study and Schematic Design for Hoover School Accelerated Repair Project
- ORDER-2015-2 : Petition to Great and General Court to pass a Special Act to authorize the placement on the official ballot to be used in the City of Melrose at the biennial state election to be held in November 2014 two questions relative to the licensing of purveyors of alcoholic beverages in the City of Melrose as set forth herein.
- ORDER-2014-152 : Requesting that the City post audio/video recordings w/ agendas of meetings of the Board of Aldermen on IQM2 portal on City's website, or, in the alternative, on YouTube with a link thereto on the city website.
- Adjournment
Minutes
CITY OF MELROSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CALENDAR● JULY 28, 2014 Aldermanic Chamber Committee Meeting 7:30 PM The public should take notice that the Melrose Board of Aldermen may, on certain occasions, have a quorum in attendance due to standing committees of the Board of Aldermen consisting of both voting and non-voting members. Members attending this duly posted meeting are participating and deliberating only in conjunction with the business of the standing committee. Attendee Name Title Status Arrived John N. Tramontozzi Chairman Present Jaclyn L. Bird Vice Chairman Present Monica C. Medeiros Alderman at Large Present Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis Alderman at Large Present Gail M. Infurna Ward 5 Alderman Present Robert A. Boisselle Ward 4 Alderman Present Scott M. Forbes Ward 7 Alderman Present Francis X. Wright Jr. Ward 3 Alderman Present Jennifer L. Lemmerman Ward 2 Alderman Present Peter D. Mortimer Ward 6 Alderman Present Donald L. Conn Jr. President/Ex-officio Member Present In Attendance: City Planner Denise Gaffey
ORDER-2015-8 Bond Authorization to Bond $60,000 to Fund Feasibility Study and Schematic Design for Hoover School Accelerated Repair Project Recommend Passage Board of Aldermen
ORDER-2015-2 Home Rule Petition/Special Act Petition to Great and General Court to pass a Special Act to authorize the placement on the official ballot to be used in the City of Melrose at the biennial state election to be held in November 2014 two questions relative to the licensing of purveyors of alcoholic beverages in the City of Melrose as set forth herein. Hold City of Melrose Page 1 Updated 7/29/2014 6:29 PM Minutes Appropriations Committee July 28, 2014
ORDER-2014-152 Request Requesting that the City post audio/video recordings w/ agendas of meetings of the Board of Aldermen on IQM2 portal on City's website, or, in the alternative, on YouTube with a link thereto on the city website. Hold City of Melrose Page 2 Updated 7/29/2014 6:29 PM
Transcript
▶ 26:06 John N. Tramontozzi: is the appropriations committee of the city of meadows board of aldermen i my name is chairman john tramantosi this committee is a committee of the full board and the entire board of alderman is present this evening pursuant to the massachusetts general laws open meeting law This meeting is being recorded and is subject to further review by the public should they choose to watch it. So at this time, if we have a motion to open the floor for public participation, that would be great. So moved, Mr. Chairman. Second. All right, so we have a motion by Alderman Mortimer to open the floor for public participation, seconded by Alderman Forbes. This is on the motion. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none, this is the opportunity for anybody, members of the public, to come forward to speak on any matter on the agenda, and we welcome any members of the public who wish to join us this evening.
▶ 27:13 John N. Tramontozzi: Motion to close public participation, Mr. Chairman. Second. Very good. Seeing none, do we have a motion to close public participation by Alderman Mortimer, seconded by Alderman Lehman. On the motion, all in favor? Aye. aye any opposed public participation is now closed uh we have a couple items on the agenda this evening we'll start with uh order number 2015-8 it's an authorization to bond sixty thousand dollars to fund feasibility study and schematic design for the hoover school accelerated repair project um mr president yeah i believe ms gaffey is going to discuss this order with us uh i would suggest that we move here she comes now sir there she is welcome come on down oh great good morning
▶ 28:04 Denise Gaffey: we have uh this this evening miss denise gaffey the director and city planner good evening motion to suspend the rules that we may hear from ms gaffey so we have a motion to suspend the rules by alderman mortimer seconded by alderman Boisselle on the motion all in favor opposed seeing none good evening miss gaffey could you give us an ovis view of order 2015-8 of course um so as the alderman know the um the city was invited to participate in the accelerated repair program from the school building assistance program and we had i had come before you a couple of months ago to express our intent to apply for a project at the hoover elementary school a much needed project to repair the windows replace the windows they're all original to the building and also selective
▶ 28:51 Denise Gaffey: door repair as well so we had the ultimate at that time had voted on a statement of interest to submit that application and it was favorably received by the sba so now we're in the second step of that process when they they notified us that we were invited to participate they have some deadlines that we have to meet and one of them is to indicate our willingness and readiness to appropriate funds for the feasibility study so this is what the nature of the order in front of you this evening is the language that's required by the sba in order to appropriate the funding which is estimated at this time to be 60 000 that's funding for a designer to do the initial design work and a project manager which we're
▶ 29:39 Denise Gaffey: required to carry for this project by the SBA's guidelines so it's funding for the architect and the project manager for that first phase which is the feasibility and sort of schematic early schematic design so the dollar amount is not is anticipated you know it would be no greater than that for this for this phase it may it would more likely be a little bit less than that but we want to sure there's adequate funding in there for the phase and then as a result of that work we will find out exactly what the cost estimate and the scope of work will be and we'll be back in front of the board at that time to ask for an appropriation for the full funding for the project so um this is just the next um requirement in order to bring us to the next stage well thank
▶ 30:24 John N. Tramontozzi: you before we get into uh questions um i just want to read for the record uh part of this order there's a letter dated july 28 2014 from mr arthur j flavin jr is the treasurer collector of the city of maros who says um the letter directed to the board of alderman ladies and gentlemen please be advised that the debt service budget will remain under five percent of the general fund budget as per policy with the passage of order 2015-8 the hoover school accelerated repairs sincerely sincerely arthur jay flavin jr so in the event that that was an issue for the board um i just want to read that into the public record uh president Conn yeah um i i'm gonna support whatever we need to do to to move forward with this project which is a needed project but um
▶ 31:16 Denise Gaffey: how do we come up with these numbers for these amounts of money for feasibility studies you You know, for this one, I was a little perplexed myself, so I talked to the project manager at the SBA and asked for his advice. And they always establish a ceiling of $15,000 for the project manager. So just based on their experience, they anticipated it would cost no more than that for the project manager to help shepherd us through the first phase. And then they have as a ballpark, I think, no more than three times that amount for the architect. So it really is, I'll admit, it's a rough figure. I do want to point out that the entire amount will be subject to reimbursement, the 50% reimbursement. Should we go forward with the project after we get the feasibility study completed, we'll get reimbursed on that amount.
▶ 32:11 Denise Gaffey: You know, we see a lot of these. i've seen a lot of these over the years and you know i can understand large sums of money for complex projects that look like they need a lot of specs to be drawn in engineering i'm scratching my head that it's going to cost 60 million 60 60 000 to uh to design window replacement seems seems kind of excessive to me and i mean so is the state mandating that we do they give you a percentage or something in terms of not at all no um what will happen um after this um after the authorization is granted if it's approved by the alderman they will issue um they will um assign an architect and a project manager to us so they do they do all the vetting now themselves in order to accelerate these projects because they have
▶ 33:05 Denise Gaffey: the they want to get them completed by i think it's september of next year so they will select an architect and a project manager and assign them to us they've already issued rfps for architects and project managers who have gone through a pretty rigorous vetting process at the sba so these are qualified architects and they're qualified project managers but they will be assigned to us and then we negotiate with them on their the fee structure and i would agree this is a lot of a lot of money for a feasibility study i don't mean to be facetious but i'm saying like if we wanted to replace that door we'd be appropriating $30,000 for a feasibility study to appropriate well yeah that's a bit of an exaggeration
▶ 33:46 Denise Gaffey: meaning it is it is a pretty it's a big building there are a lot of windows they will have to inventory all the windows and assess the condition of all of them to determine exactly what the appropriate solution is for all the windows yeah I don't want to belabor it but it just it seemed like a lot of money for a pretty pretty straightforward simple project yes and this is really just it we would not be spending any more than that and it's quite likely we would spend less and then you know additional funds would just get applied to the next phase of work Thank You mr. chairman very good alderman right next Thank You mr. chairman Denise you answered one of my questions which is the three guys to going out to bid the MSBA is doing that
▶ 34:33 Denise Gaffey: they do what they've already done it they have like a they assign us one or they have a list they have a list and then but they make it they'll make decisions they'll sort of look at their list and distribute amongst the projects in a way that we don't unfortunately we don't I mean it's it's not a process that I favor we we did this with the science lab project and it actually worked out fine the architect was fabulous the project manager was totally competent but I do like the process of actually interviewing and selecting even if they shortlisted three firms and gave us the opportunity to interview and select I feel like there's a little more accountability yeah but it's not that process I suppose the flip side to that although I agree with you is perhaps
▶ 35:15 Francis X. Wright Jr.: we're getting the state bid list prices you know maybe they get it we're getting a cheaper rate because they're available to do a number of jobs is that something that I mean because I know like when it comes to just goods and services cities and towns can buy off the stateless which you get a much lower price because they're anticipating selling in a much larger quantity right yeah I'm thinking perhaps I'm hoping yeah I guess more than thinking that you might get a better rate because an architect might get four jobs as opposed to just the mellows window yeah and we'll certainly do we'll certainly do our due diligence diligence in terms of negotiating with them I mean this this is not a blank
▶ 35:56 Francis X. Wright Jr.: check and just because the funding has been approved in this amount doesn't mean that's funding we're just going to turn over to the architect we just want to be comfortable that we're so we do negotiate the price they give us the architect but we negotiate the contract contract them and the M fee yes we we they've stayed as approving them they're saying they have not only the they're approved so they're not the bar they're not right they're responsible and Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. And I assume, you know, as Alderman Kahn says, you know, it's replacing windows, and I get his point, and I agree with it. I assume there's a little bit more to it because you've got to check the status of the walls
▶ 36:35 Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis: and make sure there might be other work that goes with this. There absolutely, there is. And this hopefully lowers the price of the actual project because that work has been done ahead of time. Because you do, that's very true. You do the due diligence. But there is a fair amount of work involved in just reporting back to the SBA and meeting all of their standards and paperwork requirements, too. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You're welcome. Alderman McAtee-McAuliffe. Oh, thank you. Some of my questions were also asked and answered, but I was wondering if, like, as part of this, for instance, there's those metal grates on the windows, so that would be figured in. I mean the architect and project manager would figure in the cost of removing those if they found
▶ 37:23 Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis: asbestos or something like that that oh yeah would all be that all be identified and identified at this point at this stage of the game yes right correct so it could be a little more involved than just like doing the windows in your house for instance um my other question is what is the reimbursement rate for this type of um accelerated repair project it'll be the same rate we've been receiving for the last couple of projects we've done which is roughly 50 point seven two I think percent and is it at all dependent on whether we choose a more energy efficient no they don't have any point money there's no point system no point with this program and for unfortunately okay so we would be reimbursed at that rate also for the cost of whatever the feasibility study
▶ 38:13 Robert A. Boisselle: Absolutely. Yep. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Very good. Alderman Boisselle, I think, was up next. What is the duty of the project manager? I mean, you're looking at windows. I mean, I can see more of a construction engineer when you remove windows, you have the surrounding structure and so forth that you have to worry about, making sure you have the correct thickness. But what's the, what are the duties of the project manager for this such a small job? I mean I can see building if you're rehabbing the entire building and so forth that's a different story but what what is he going to be doing so the project manager is a requirement that is an SBA requirement for all their projects so it's not an option and the project manager is sort of the
▶ 38:59 Denise Gaffey: interface between the architect in this case it's an architect the contractor and the SBA so they're sort of working on our behalf always looking out for our best interest they are they're experts in construction so they understand if an architect is proposing a couple of different options they'll you know they weigh in on what the bit you know what what the best option is for us they're experts at the bidding process and so is the project manager basically is going to be a civil engineer or construction engineer project managers are oftentimes engineers by background or they're there or they've been the contracting construction industry by background they have to be certified right okay all
▶ 39:45 Scott M. Forbes: right thank you very much thank you Mr. Chairman very good all of them in the Forbes yes thank you for being here tonight now you said these windows are the original windows correct they are okay I did a little online research today because I didn't know how old the Hoover School actually was school was built in 1967 so we'll talk about windows that are 57 years old and they obviously are beyond their shelf life so I'm looking at the big picture and all this and just say that the $60,000 appropriation for the studies or whatever schematics need to be drawn up I do believe that it is the necessary steps that we need to take to secure our funding and also represents an effort from the city to reinvest in our facility and give the faculty at the
▶ 40:26 Jaclyn L. Bird: Hoover School a better facility to teach our kids I'm kind of looking at that angle with the big picture so i'm glad we're we're we're pushing through with this and i i do support this order uh thank you mr chairman very good you're welcome alderman bird thank you mr chairman and thank you miss gaffey um and thanks very much for your work on this as a parent of two kids at the hoover i feel like i spend 90 of my life at the hoover school and we i had asked about those windows a lot um we talked before that hoover is the only school that has those grates on the the windows type of thing just in case people are watching tonight and wondering why Hoover's windows are getting attention maybe before in other
▶ 41:06 Denise Gaffey: schools can you talk a little bit about the time frame with the SBA sort of once we get this step if this step goes through this evening in our next full board meeting what happens next and when can we anticipate that the project would actually be unfolding if we were okay so after I notify them of the the funding authorization they'll present it to their board I think they're planning on an October board meeting for this project in October or November at the latest so then it would be voted on on the by the full board and and then actually let me let me back up a little bit I think yeah it'll be voted on in by October and they'll assign us the the architect and the project manager to move forward but the plan at the moment and I think it's completely feasible is
▶ 41:57 Denise Gaffey: to do the construction in the summer of next year so we will be working over the winter on the design and seeking the approvals that we need and then doing the bidding in the late winter early spring so that we can meet that target great thank you and just one other question and this might be beyond the scope of what your particular assignment is with this project but as we enter another school year with the grades on the windows is that a discussion that comes up at all as far as public safety with those windows and I mean I know we know that sometimes the concern was yeah about vandalism and that sort of thing because of the way Hoover is right or secluded yeah yeah we believe that's that's probably the theory behind why they were originally installed but
▶ 42:43 Denise Gaffey: that's certainly first and foremost in the superintendent's mind is the public public safety or the safety concern with those greats so I think that's you know obviously we're gonna be looking for a solution to both of those concerns as part of this feasibility study you know we are still concerned about the fact that the building is some in a somewhat remote location so what can we do to protect against future vandalism sure and how can we best design these windows to provide you know the safety for the students which in the faculty which is the biggest concern and my understanding was that because of the the age of the windows that it was actually not feasible to take the grades off in the
▶ 43:22 Denise Gaffey: meantime is that correct like for it let's say for this upcoming school year and maybe I'm I don't know where I got that so yeah right that there was an idea that they actually couldn't I believe I was told this up at the school that they couldn't get the grades off in the meantime I do think that was looked at I think that the facilities department did look at that and came to that conclusion it might cause more damage it might do more more damage exactly so at this point especially considering how fortunate we are to be in this position it would just make sense to just you know plow ahead with this schedule okay excellent thank you very much thank you mr chairman very good you're welcome any further discussion seeing none is there a motion on the floor motion to recommend second
▶ 44:02 John N. Tramontozzi: you have a motion to recommend by alderman forbes seconded by alderman mortimer thank you um and no further discussion on the vote all in favor aye aye any opposed seeing none that um it will be recommended to the full board for uh for passage thank you that's great thank you very much thank Thank you. The second order on the agenda is order 2015-2. The petition to the great and general court to pass a special act to authorize the placement on the official ballot to be used in the city of Meadows at the biennial state election to be held in November 2014. Two questions relative to the licensing of providers of alcoholic beverages in the city of Meadows as supported herein offered by the Mayor Robert J. Dolan.
▶ 44:45 John N. Tramontozzi: Mr. President? Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I've discussed this order with the mayor earlier today, and I think he's probably discussed it with many of the members of the Board of Aldermen. Based on some legal and other issues, this order may not go forward in its current form, and the administration is asking that we take no action relative to the order this evening. So I would suggest that we not take any vote relative to this order at this time and just allow it to stay in committee to be discussed later if need be very good that's also my understanding and speaking with the mayor as well so thank you president khan so we'll move on to order number 2014-152 requesting that the city post audio video
▶ 45:36 Francis X. Wright Jr.: recordings with the genders of meetings of the board of aldermen on iqm2 portal on city website are in the alternative on youtube with a link there too on the city website well alderman wright i think this was your order or request to be placed on the agenda thank you mr chairman yes it was um and i'm familiar with both of these uh prospective ways of posting meetings by personal experience and we have the IQM to portal on our website already what that is able to provide and I think the clerk of committees is is able to show us through the link in the very top left corner of your web page is and if you look on the screen across from us behind you it's the city or town of I think it's Redding California there are several in Massachusetts that do
▶ 46:46 Francis X. Wright Jr.: this as well and what it allows you to do is it allows you to go to the agenda item of a meeting that has already happened click on the agenda item and you will immediately go to the discussion on the agenda item and you can click the bottom and enlarge it so it takes up the whole screen it's got volume the whole nine yards so you hear the discussion so it's fairly self-explanatory fairly easy to use I think very easy to use and I'm familiar with that on a day-to-day basis in my other life but also I know that the some of the state agencies or at least the Gaming Commission posts their meetings on YouTube and you can find agenda items I believe they list the the time on the recording of where you can find particular agenda items if I'm correct
▶ 47:55 Francis X. Wright Jr.: but at least they're on YouTube and they get posted rather quickly and this comes to mind because obviously while MMTV does a great job recording them recording our meetings and the school committee meetings if you are interested in seeing something, you cannot count on when you're going to see it. If somebody's really interested, and I know when we had the water hearings, Alderman Kahn was frustrated that based on the news industry as it is right now, we don't get the coverage in the papers that we might have in the past. And so if somebody wanted to watch that meeting and go back and look at it, they would have to go to MMTV and if they just happen to miss it and it was on a cycle you might
▶ 48:45 Francis X. Wright Jr.: have to wait six hours for it to come back around it's a great service MMTV provides for us but I just think it would be a lot more user friendly and be a benefit to our constituents if they can somehow access a discussion of a matter that they have an interest in much more rapidly either through the IQ m2 site or to a posting on YouTube I think both of them have a cost to the city my understanding is IQ m2 is and maybe the city clerk can help me on this $550 a month and I believe we were waiting to get word as to what it would cost for posting on YouTube but I think it's a good investment I think it's good for our constituents I think there's less and less coverage in newspapers generally and certainly of our meetings um and um you know i want to throw this out there for the
▶ 49:42 Francis X. Wright Jr.: members of this board uh to consider um and um see where it might go thank you other than right i just have a quick question um who would post on youtube how is that accomplished well if you know it's a good question mr chairman um i would assume it would be the clerk or the clerk of committees would work with it to get it posted my guess is clerk a committee tends to be a jack-of-all-trades and ultimately a lot of it would fall on her I don't want to speak for her so what do I want to volunteer would that be the need for an additional camera posted in the in this chamber well I think that's part of where it comes into you know the potential for cost and all that is both with posting it I don't know what deals would have to be made with them MTV I
▶ 50:34 don't know the exact arrangements that exist with regards to use of that video so um we would have to work through that president yeah um i i think any way that we can um get our meetings and our deliberations out to more people to try to interest people is a good thing um i would like to know how much this would cost before we take a vote on it um you know i i have no idea whether this is hundreds of dollars or thousands of dollars but i think it's a good idea if we can do it um i would like to see us hold this order until we get some kind of cost estimate back as to what this would cost but unless it's a prohibitive cost i would support this ozman forbes yeah i don't even know if this is even an i.t question or something that you could answer because you're
▶ 51:25 Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis: familiar with this but do we know what the turnaround time is from the time you have a meeting if it was to go on this type of software how long it would take for it to be loaded up with all due respect it takes as it's as quick as the clerk can get it done okay my experience is the next day and i know with the gaming commission it tends to be the next day also okay all right thank you did you have a further comment before i go well with regards to the iqm2 it's five hundred and fifty dollars a month okay other than back to my goal is thank you actually MMTV has just started to stream the Board of Aldermen and school committee meetings on our website they are not searchable and it's pretty much just the last two site the last two meetings we don't have the bandwidth or
▶ 52:15 Mary Beth McAteer-Margolis: capacity at this point to archive all of the meetings online but we're kind of in the in the pilot phase of that and hope in the fall to be able to maybe expand it it typically is about 24 hours later the way that it works now is we have to get the the disk if you will back from City Hall and then load it into the server so you can find the last couple of meetings of both boards on our website mmtv3 but and it's so you can watch it whenever you want but it is not like searchable like by order number which is a feature that IQ m2 would do and whether or not that is something down the road that mmtv could provide you'd have to check with the executive director who does the programming but i do know that we've
▶ 53:13 just started doing that as a kind of feature in between times anyways for people to be able to to look at it whenever they want so and there's no cost at the moment there's no cost to the city for that alderman wright just if i may ask the clerk of committees did do we have a cost is there a I thought there was a cost related to YouTube postings when I spoke with the IT director he indicated that it would cost upwards of 800 a month for for us to for the city to do that via YouTube that's not you mentioned it that's I do recall that so the IQ m2 would be actually cheaper it would be less expensive it would also integrate what we already use so you go to one website you could see the agenda the minutes the video right there I mr. chairman I know
▶ 54:11 Francis X. Wright Jr.: that we're speaking for the third time but I think it's a good investment I think it's an opportunity for the public to again view a matter that may be of interest to them that everyone works crazy schedules now people have commitments with the children and their families etc jobs there's no there's very little nine-to-five world anymore but if they do have an interest they can they can go online it shows that we're you know staying current with technology here in Melrose I'd rather be at or ahead of the curve than behind it so if this board sees fit I'm inclined to vote in favor of this and I hope that the other members of this committee will support it thank you I think one of the other things that IQM2 offers is that you know how they produce the
▶ 55:03 Monica C. Medeiros: agenda and the meeting schedules and then they put it you can have an icon next to each meeting posted you click on the icon and up comes the video I mean something like that would be I think something IQM2's capabilities I would think not being a computer whiz but Alderman Medeiros thank you some of Alderman Wright interaction with our clerk committees did answer some of my question but I think this is a is a good idea I do think that this is a significant cost we're hearing tonight that you know I'd like to get more concrete numbers before I voted on that and make sure the funds are actually available what I'm I'm wondering when the clerk committees had said that it would be $800 a month to post this on YouTube is this the cost that YouTube
▶ 56:06 Gail Infurna: incurs or is it something that it would fit the staff person to do I think it's a server cost I think the city would have to either either rent server space or by server space to hold this much data I believe is what is what the IT director said it was just verbal okay thank you that that's all I I wouldn't be ready to make a decision on this tonight thank you very much mr. mr. chairman I also agree that I think we need a little bit more information the thought is good and I certainly would like to you know research a little bit more and just as a question and I'm not quite sure if through you mr. chairman to alderman right do you know if this or maybe even a city clerk committees could do it do you know if there's a way to tell how many hits that
▶ 57:10 Gail Infurna: it's getting would it count the number of hits I'm just curious if we did it for a year in a trial and you know to look at how many hits you got if there a way to do that well i'm sure there is yeah that seems you know it may be something that maybe we could trial for a year to if that's if depending on the investment and whether it's a permanent type of investment worth it or what anyways i'm looking to probably have a little bit more information um just alderman wright you might have a response yeah thank you mr chairman i we can confirm that if we're going to hold this in committee we can confirm that you can see how many hits there those are good questions I think our numbers are accurate with
▶ 57:50 Francis X. Wright Jr.: regards to the cost but you know to the extent people want to look at it more you know they want may want to go on and check out some other cities and towns that have it and actually use it and that's understandable but like you said you know you can go on an old agenda and click on the agenda item see the discussion now that's that's that's one of the things you can do but we can look and check with regards to hits and see if we can count those as well thank you all the more to marry you um if you go on the site there's on the left-hand menu if you go on the IQ m2 site right here on our tablets it says request pricing and they also have you can schedule a demo request info they have an 800 number here they have sales at IQ m2 comm so all this information is
▶ 58:44 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: pretty readily available to us for our next meeting when we discuss this we can find out a lot of this information so they'd be happy to tell us but to try it's right here on the their own website we can find out very good thank you Alderman Lemmerman, I think, you're up next. Thank you. I am curious about whether IQM2 and their service has a comments feature for their videos. I'm thinking of YouTube, you know, they do have comments and just sort of that's just a dynamic to consider in terms of, you know, it could foster some dialogue, but it also you sometimes get spammers and we would probably need to make decisions around whether there would be someone moderating those and commenting questions right here too you
▶ 59:35 John N. Tramontozzi: can send them a comment or a question right now I mean more on the videos can know their commenters yeah yeah and and if just sort of consideration as we think of the two surfaces I think I think Alderman Lemmerman was thinking about the public's use of the website to make comments on about our meetings and in general yeah very good I just my experience is no they don't have a comments maybe that's good I don't know but there are as we all know there are other places where people can comment but to my my experience is not on the IQ I'm too so I think there may be some control issues on what goes up in comments that's why there's limitations on that probably any other discussion seeing none we have a motion do I hold it motion to hold in all the committee
▶ 1:00:37 Francis X. Wright Jr.: we just just so I understand what the questions are going forward I don't I'm not sure I understand because I think we have numbers and like other than whether they count hits are we looking for anything specific are we looking for anyone specific if this is coming back at the next meeting to the extent people looking at me for answers I want to make sure we address it president Kahn has a thought yeah um I'd like to know whether we whether we're going to use one or both of these options I'd like to think about the cost and I don't really have specific questions other than that I would just be interested in knowing what the technical like do they provide a camera is there wiring involved any of
▶ 1:01:35 that kind of stuff do they use what is already existing here yeah I mean if I can mr. chairman my experience is no they use the existing feed so you know the clerk of committees knows anything differently how she can weigh in but they just use the existing feed correct yeah so they would tap into that well then do they have to get licensing from the mmtv because it is there you know that's an issue i don't know through right through the chair to i believe it's a public document it's maybe yeah yeah i don't yeah i would be interested in knowing how that gets from one place to the next and what the timeline is on that. Interesting. Alderman Medeiros. Thank you. I would like to see a written quote from IQM2
▶ 1:02:30 Monica C. Medeiros: included in our packet. And also I know the clerk committees had indicated that there was a verbal conversation with our internal IT director on the server cost being $800 a month. And it was kind of my understanding that YouTube, you know, sort of they operate and hold the videos and not necessarily the user who's watching it. And if we could provide things like links, I feel like we could probably possibly avoid some of that server cost, but I'm not quite an expert on that. But I'd like to explore that more outside of this meeting room and, you know, get some kind of written memo as to what the cost might be there. I would assume it will take some time to, you know, watch the videos and mark what time
▶ 1:03:25 Monica C. Medeiros: obviously if whoever is taking minutes is marking the time in the meetings that certain discussions happen then that may be easier to mark in the videos themselves but you know perhaps we could look at getting some volunteers to do some of this in the in the short term if and I would also like to confirm that there are funds available from the city auditor before we move forward with the decision those are the kinds of things that I would like to see before it all right I think that's very good last one last comment with regards to one of all them in Collins questions I did not intend through this order that it be posted on both all right good so what's the will of the committee do we have a
▶ 1:04:28 John N. Tramontozzi: motion file the order until the next committee meeting motion holding committee yeah second all right there's a motion on the floor by Alderman Forbes to hold in committee second by Alderman Boisselle any further discussion on the motion all in favor aye any opposed seeing none we will hold that in committee motion to adjourn second we have a motion to adjourn by Alderman Mortimer thank you seconded by Alderman Forbes on the motion all in favor aye Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you.