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ORDER-2018-121 : Amending Rule 48 of the Rules of Order of the Melrose Board of Aldermen

Did not pass · DEFEATED [5 TO 6] · moved by John N. Tramontozzi, Ward 1 Alderman, seconded by Peter D. Mortimer, Ward 6 Alderman Yes: Scott M. Forbes, Shawn M. MacMaster, Peter D. Mortimer, John N. Tramontozzi, Michael P. Zwirko. No: Manisha Bewtra, Robert A. Boisselle, Jennifer L. Lemmerman, Kate Lipper-Garabedian, Monica C. Medeiros, Francis X. Wright Jr..

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ORDER-2018-121 Amending Rules of Order of the Board of Aldermen City of Melrose Page 1 8/1/2018 9:35 AM Minutes Board of Aldermen July 16, 2018 Amending Rule 48 of the Rules of Order of the Melrose Board of Aldermen Defeated

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▶ 58:41 Michael P. Zwirko: favor aye aye any opposed that order will be placed on file the second order mr president

▶ 58:49 Francis X. Wright Jr.: coming out of the legal legislative committee is order number 2018-121 amending rule 48 of the rules of order of the melrose board of aldermen um this first i will move that the um the order

▶ 59:09 Peter D. Mortimer: be uh taken from committee second the motion to remove the order from committee holden wright

▶ 59:13 Michael P. Zwirko: moves the last order from committee of legal legislative this evening to be removed from committee has been seconded by alderman Mortimer all those in favor to remove for committee any opposed the order is before you

▶ 59:25 Francis X. Wright Jr.: well then right as the the board knows this matter is coming before us without recommendation after a healthy discussion in committee a point of

▶ 59:36 John N. Tramontozzi: order if I could order before we make a motion to act on it I think a appropriate motion at this time would be just to make that correction in the language and that is I'm going to move to strike the word caucus as appears in

▶ 59:59 John N. Tramontozzi: sentence two, in sentence three, and substitute the word election where

▶ 1:00:09 John N. Tramontozzi: caucus appears those two times. So that's a motion to. Motion to amend. Second the

▶ 1:00:15 Michael P. Zwirko: motion to amend. There's been a motion to amend that has been proffered by Alderman Tramontozzi, has been seconded by Alderman Mortimer. It is to strike the word caucus where it appears twice and replace it with election. On discussion,

▶ 1:00:29 Monica C. Medeiros: Alderman Medeiros there are two other instances of caucus I missed it notice of caucus shall be posted and the caucus shall be held in a public session that's

▶ 1:00:44 John N. Tramontozzi: the final paragraph of that section thank you for pointing it out the last sentence all let me just add that as well as part of that motion the the other two you know all references to our thank you all references or caucus

▶ 1:01:00 Michael P. Zwirko: substitute election second in kind that motion to amend the order is before you all those in favor any opposed this order comes as was mentioned by Alderman Wright without recommendation however it has been amended so it is before you now

▶ 1:01:17 John N. Tramontozzi: Alderman Tremont ozi motion to recommend as amended most of the passage as

▶ 1:01:23 Michael P. Zwirko: amended thank you there's nothing been a motion for passage as amended proffered by alderman Trey Montozzi it has been seconded by alderman Mortimer on

▶ 1:01:34 Michael P. Zwirko: discussion hearing none I just did want to take advantage of the opportunity being the chair of this meeting to just state again just for the record this is just a rule change there's nothing more to it than amending our rules I actually did appreciate the debate this evening it's been a while since we've kind of talked about this I will just say personally that I do think that the process that we went through in the winter was a good one you know it's as Alderman Wright said it's how the sausage got made it got made very publicly and it was it was actually you know in hindsight it was actually kind of fun so you know I hope that this passes because I think that it just makes simple sense but if it doesn't that's okay but you know I appreciate the opportunity after a little bit of a three and a half week dormancy that we uh had some very good fulsome debate here so i appreciate everyone providing that this evening with that i think this is going to be a close vote i i would request that this is a roll call so given the debate that we had uh in the previous committee um i alderman wright thanks uh i'm not sure it's appropriate to

▶ 1:02:47 Michael P. Zwirko: a roll call but well i show a hands i i can't make that as a president i was hoping that someone would um but it's uh before us as a as a recommended for passions as amended so that being

▶ 1:03:02 Robert A. Boisselle: said um i thought it was a show of hands might be rather than okay if you can't make if you can't distinguish you can call for a show of hands a show of hands yep yes all right well uh unless

▶ 1:03:14 Michael P. Zwirko: there's any further discussion on this which i don't see any of all those in favor of the motion for passage as amended please say aye aye all those opposed opposed may i please have a show

▶ 1:03:25 Michael P. Zwirko: of hands of those that are in favor of the motion for passage as amended one two three four five

▶ 1:03:35 Michael P. Zwirko: motion for passage as amended fails we should reconsideration oh I take that