City Council — 2025-07-21
Attendance
Cal Finocchiaro ; Mark Garipay ; Ward Hamilton ; Maya Jamaleddine ; Manjula Karamcheti ; Leila Migliorelli ; John Obremski ; Devin Romanul ; Robb Stewart ; Kimberly Vandiver ; Ryan Williams
Agenda
- Call to Order
- Reading of the Minutes
- Public Comment
- Communications from Her Honor, The Mayor And Other City Officials
- New Business
- Reappointment of Gail Infurna, 12 Mt. Vernon St., #41, to the Traffic Commission, for a five year term; said term to expire on the last day of May 2030.
- Reappointment of Jeffrey Parenti, 29 Trenton Street, to the Traffic Commission, said term to expire on the last day of May 2030.
- Appointment of Gentry Andrews, 15 Orient Place, to the Melrose Commission on Women
- Appointment of Gentry Andrews, 15 Orient Place, to the Melrose Historical Commission
- Requesting the Appropriation of $124,500,000 to pay costs for design, engineering, construction, site improvements, equipping, and furnishing of a renovated Melrose Central Fire Station, a new Melrose Highlands Fire Station, a new Melrose East Side Fire Station and a new Melrose Police Station.
- Bangkok Bar Shi new Common Victualler License
- ORDER-2026-1 : Amending Chapter 198 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Solid Waste and Recycling to update language to reflect current programs.
- ORDER-2026-2 : Amending Chapter 202 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Streets and Sidewalks
- ORDER-2026-3 : Amending Chapter 228 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Water, Sewers, and Drains
- Calling the Local Election for Tuesday, November 4th 2025 from 7:00 am to 8:00 pm at the Melrose Veterans Memorial Middle School gymnasium complex.
- Requesting City Council approval of the Board of Registrars of Voters Recommendations relative to In Person Early Voting and Mail In Voting for the November 4, 2025 Local Election
- Public Hearing-National Grid Petitions
- Petition to install 1 JO Pole on Emerson Pl Order #31108543
- Utility Petition for National Grid to install 1 JO pole N Cedar Park No 31067326
- Unfinished Business
- Appointment of Chief John White, 40 Youle Street, Melrose, MA as Emergency Management Director
- Amending Chapter 4 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose, to Insert a New Section 4-15, Payment of Taxes as Condition of City Facility Rental
- ORDNC-2026-1 : Acceptance of M.G.L. chapter 200A, Section 9A, relating to the disposition of unclaimed property by a city or town.
- ORDNC-2026-2 : Amending Chapter 164-2(C)(6) of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose to specify permitted hours and days for construction activities
- Expiries
- Rule 37 Reports
- Adjournment
Minutes
CITY OF MELROSE CITY COUNCIL BULLETIN● JULY 21, 2025 Council Chamber, First Floor, Melrose City Hall Regular Meeting 7:46 PM 562 Main Street, Melrose, MA 02176 Attendee Name Title Status Arrived Cal Finocchiaro Ward 6 Present Mark Garipay Ward 4 Present Ward Hamilton At-Large Present Maya Jamaleddine At-Large Present Manjula Karamcheti Ward 1 Present John Obremski Ward 2 Absent Devin Romanul Ward 7 Present Robb Stewart Ward 3 Absent Kimberly Vandiver Ward 5 Present Ryan Williams At-Large Present Leila Migliorelli At-Large Absent
(ID # 12866) Appointment/Reappointment Reappointment of Gail Infurna, 12 Mt. Vernon St., #41, to the Traffic Commission, for a five year term; said term to expire on the last day of May 2030. Assign to Committee Boards & Commission
(ID # 12867) Appointment/Reappointment Reappointment of Jeffrey Parenti, 29 Trenton Street, to the Traffic Commission, said term to expire on the last day of May 2030. Assign to Committee Boards & Commission
(ID # 12887) Appointment/Reappointment Appointment of Gentry Andrews, 15 Orient Place, to the Melrose Commission on Women Assign to Committee Boards & Commission
(ID # 12888) Appointment/Reappointment Appointment of Gentry Andrews, 15 Orient Place, to the Melrose Historical Commission Assign to Committee Boards & Commission
(ID # 12868) Bond City of Melrose Page 1 8/7/2025 12:38 PM Minutes City Council July 21, 2025 Requesting the Appropriation of $124,500,000 to pay costs for design, engineering, construction, site improvements, equipping, and furnishing of a renovated Melrose Central Fire Station, a new Melrose Highlands Fire Station, a new Melrose East Side Fire Station and a new Melrose Police Station. Assigned to Committee Appropriations & Oversight Committee
(ID # 12865) License - Common Victualler Bangkok Bar Shi new Common Victualler License Assigned to commitee Protection and License Committee
(ID # 12742) Amending Revised Ordinances Amending Chapter 198 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Solid Waste and Recycling to update language to reflect current programs. Assigned to Committee Legal & Legislative Committee
(ID # 12743) Amending Revised Ordinances Amending Chapter 202 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Streets and Sidewalks Assigned to Committee Legal & Legislative Committee
(ID # 12744) Amending Revised Ordinances Amending Chapter 228 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose Water, Sewers, and Drains Assigned to Committee Legal & Legislative Committee
(ID # 12884) Calling Election Calling the Local Election for Tuesday, November 4th 2025 from 7:00 am to 8:00 pm at the Melrose Veterans Memorial Middle School gymnasium complex. Assigned to Committee Finance Committee
(ID # 12885) Election City of Melrose Page 2 8/7/2025 12:38 PM Minutes City Council July 21, 2025 Requesting City Council approval of the Board of Registrars of Voters Recommendations relative to In Person Early Voting and Mail In Voting for the November 4, 2025 Local Election Assigned to Committee Finance Committee
(ID # 12773) Utility Petition Petition to install 1 JO Pole on Emerson Pl Order #31108543 Table City Council
(ID # 12774) Utility Petition Utility Petition for National Grid to install 1 JO pole N Cedar Park No 31067326 Place on File City Council
(ID # 12793) Appointment/Reappointment Appointment of Chief John White, 40 Youle Street, Melrose, MA as Emergency Management Director Passed City Council
(ID # 12729) Ordinance Amending Chapter 4 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose, to Insert a New Section 4-15, Payment of Taxes as Condition of City Facility Rental Assigned to Committee Legal & Legislative Committee
ORDNC-2026-1 Ordinance Acceptance of M.G.L. chapter 200A, Section 9A, relating to the disposition of unclaimed property by a city or town. Passed City Council
(ID # 12795) Amending Revised Ordinances Amending Chapter 164-2(C)(6) of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Melrose to specify permitted hours and days for construction activities No Action Taken City Council City of Melrose Page 3 8/7/2025 12:38 PM
Transcript
▶ 24:01 Mark Garipay: in accordance with Massachusetts Open Meeting Law. This meeting is being broadcast and recorded by Melrose Cable Access tv, and will be available for viewing in its entirety on MMTV and through the city website Link. Madam Clerk, will you please call the role? Yes. Councilor Ro Here. Councilor Garipay? Here. Councilor Hamilton? Here. Councilor Jamine. Here. Counselor. Karen Chetty. Here. Councilor Mki. Councilor Romanul. Here. Councilor Stewart. Thank you. Councilor Vandiver. Here. Counselor Williams. Here. President Elli. Thank you. Madam Chair. That constitutes a, a quorum for the record. Uh, next up, uh, pledge of Allegiance. At this time, please rise if you are able to join us in the Pledge of
▶ 24:54 Mark Garipay: Allegiance. Aye. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. United States of America. And to the Republic. Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible liberty, with liberty and justice for all. Yeah. Except we have reading of the minutes. At this time, I'll motion to approve without reading by unanimous consent, the minutes of the June 2nd, 2025. Regular city council meeting. Seeing no objections, those minutes are now approved, uh, onto public comment. I will motion by unanimous consent to open the floor to public comment, seeing, um, seeing, uh, no objections where public comment is now open. If there's anyone in here on the gallery looking to speak to anything on our agenda tonight, please come forward
▶ 25:46 Mark Garipay: seeing no one in the gallery. Is there anyone online? There's no one online. Okay. See, uh, I will close with the unanimous consent, the public comment portion of our meeting. Moving right along, we are on to communications from Our Honor, the mayor and other city officials, uh, new business filings by honor the Honorable Mayor appointments. Um, Madam Clerk, can you please call, uh, read the, uh, appointments? Yes. ID number 1 2 8 6 6 reappointment of GA Inferno 12 Mount Vernon Street, number 41 to the traffic Commission for a five year term. Said term to expire on the last day of May, 2030. That will go to the boards and commissions ID number 1 2 8 6 7 reappointment of Jeffrey Parenti, 29 Trenton Street to the Traffic Commission.
▶ 26:41 Said term to expire on the last day of May, 2030. That will also go to the com, uh, the boards and commissions ID number 1 2 8 8 7. Appointment of Gentry Andrews 15, orient Place to the Melrose Commission on Women. And that will go to boards and commissions ID number 1 2 8 8 8. Appointment of Gentry Andrews 15, orient Place to the Melrose Historical Commission That will also go to boards and commissions onto appropriation ID number 1 2 8 6 8 requesting the appropriation of $124,500,000 to pay costs for design, engineering, construction site improvements, equipping and furnishing of a renovated Melrose Central Fire Station. A new Melrose Highlands Fire Station, a new Melrose East Side Fire Station,
▶ 27:40 and a new Melrose Police station. That appropriation will go to, uh, appropriations and oversight. Next up, we have licenses ID number 1 2 8 6 5 Bangkok Bar. She new common Whittler's license That will go to protection and license. Next up, we are on to ordinances ID number 1 2 7 4 2, amending chapter 1 98 of the revised ordinances of the city of Melrose, solid waste and recycling to update language to reflect current programs That will go to legal and legislature ID number 1 2 7 4 3, amending chapter 2 0 2 of the revised ordinances of the city of Melrose Streets and sidewalks. And that will go to legal and legislature ID number 1 2 7 4 4 amending chapter 2 2 8 of the revised ordinances of the city
▶ 28:35 Mark Garipay: of Melrose Water sewers and drains That will also go to legal and legislature. Next up, we have orders ID number 1 2 8 8 4, calling the local election for Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 from 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM at the Melrose Veterans Memorial Middle School gymnasium complex. Uh, that will go to the finance committee ID number 1 2 8 8 5, requesting city council approval of the Board of registrars of voters recommendations relative to in-person early voting and mail-in voting for the November, 2020, November 4th, 2025, local election. And that will all also go to the finance committee. Next up, we have public hearing, which starts at eight o'clock. So if, uh, the committee is okay with it, I'd like to go
▶ 29:31 Mark Garipay: to unfinished business and keep on moving. Seeing no objections by the committee, we are on to unfinished business and appointments ID number 1, 2, 7, 9 3. Appointment of Chief John White, 40 ELL Street, Melrose, mass as Emergency Management Director, Counselor, uh, Al By then, apologies, this comes from the licensing protection, uh, committee with a motion to recommend. Um, and this time I'll make a motion to recommend. Second, We have a motion to recommend by, um, chair Romanul and by Council Ro on discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. That, uh, that is passed. Next up, we have ordinances. Um, we have ID 1 2 7 2 9 amending chapter four of the revised ordinances of the City of Melrose to insert a new section four dash
▶ 30:34 Mark Garipay: 15 payment taxes as condition of city facility rentals. Um, we counselor Aldi? Yes. So this, um, order, uh, was sent back, uh, from, uh, legal and legislative committee for, uh, due to expiring, um, uh, the order. Um, and at this time, um, it is, um, returned to the full console with no action taken. Okay, so right now, uh, in front of us is a, is a motion to, uh, send this id. 1, 2 7 2 9 back to back to committee due to the expiration made by council. Jamal second, the second by Council Ro on discussion. All in favor? Aye. A Aye. Opposed? That will be sent back to legal and legislative Madam Clerk ID number 1 2 7 9 4. Acceptance of MGL Chapter 200 a Section nine A relating to the disposition of unclaimed property
▶ 31:44 Mark Garipay: by a city or town. Um, uh, Mr. Chair, this, this, um, order comes from the legal and Legislation Committee with a recommendation for passage. And at this time, I would like to make a motion for passage. Second, We have a motion for passage made by Councilor Jamal and seconded by Council Ro in discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? That is passed. Uh, next up we have ID 1, 2, 7, 9 5. It's amending chapter 1 64 dash two C six of the revised ordinances of the city of Merose to specify permitted hours in days of for construction activity. We will, uh, we will not be making a final vote on this tonight due to, um, charter section two dash nine C. It has to stay in committee. We can't vote at the same night. We have to wait 10 days.
▶ 32:40 Mark Garipay: So that will be on for final vote at our next council meeting. It'll be staying in city council. Okay. So that takes care of, uh, we have no expires. Do we have any, um, reports under Rule 53? Um, with that being said, we have a few minutes. I'll take, I'll, I'll take a motion to, uh, take a recess. So moved. Second. We have a motion for recess till eight o'clock by Councilor Hamilton second, and by Council Vandiver on discussion. We are recessed, we are back. So we have an eight o'clock public hearing for some National Grid petitions. Um, first National Grid petition is 1 2 7 7 3. Petition to install one Jail poll on Emerson Place. Order 3 1 1 0 8 5 4 3. Is there anyone from National Grid here to, uh, to speak?
▶ 33:43 Actually, lemme take a step back. Uh, let me open the hearing for public comment. If there's anyone here that would like to speak regarding this poll movement, please, please come up and, and give your name and address. Sorry about that. I should have done that first. That's okay. Hi. Hi. Hello, I'm, uh, David Bliss and speaking Tonight as a member of the Melrose Unitarian Universalist Church and Chair of the Property Committee. Um, we're planning to make improvements to our parking area and grounds adjacent to Emerson Place. National Grid has provided a plan in your meeting packet that shows the location of the pole to be removed and the location of a new pole. But I'd suggest you might want to refer to the plan
▶ 34:36 that they have, because there's some information that's not on that plan. Um, electric service on Emerson Place is provided through an underground conduit extending from the sidewalk vault at the corner of Emes Emerson Street and Emerson Place. The service runs past the church parking area to a pole not shown on the plan located between 12 and 14 Emerson Place. This pole marks the hub of the local distribution network for the homes on Emerson Place, including the overhead line running north towards Emerson Street, um, to pole number 3 0 4 that we are seeking to remove. Poll 3 0 4 was installed probably around 1965 solely to provide power to the Church edition that was completed in 1967. About 20 years ago,
▶ 35:34 an accessible ramp was installed adjacent to the parking area. Our designated accessible parking area is located just north of the pole, and there is one standard sized space to the south. I am aware of several incidents involving vehicle damage when pulling into and out of the parking, that particular parking space due to the pole location close to the street. So someone might come, a driver would come out to his car, open the door and get in and may not be aware of how close they are to that pole when they pull out. Construction of the accessible ramp. Also required enlarging the porch at our side door and extending the roof south to the adjacent electrical masthead, creating a potential hazardous
▶ 36:26 situation when cleaning the porch gutters. Subject to available project funding, our goal is to remove Poll 3 0 4 and the masthead to reduce the multiple hazard associated with the current setup. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak regarding the poll, um, on Emerson Place? Come up and just, uh, state your name and address please. Thank you. Uh, rich on 12 Emerson Place, I actually just have a question. How are you gonna feed the, the church underground, but from across the street? Um, it, it's subject to how much money it's going to cost us. Uh, national grid's not going to do this project for Free. Excuse me. We'll, um, we we're gonna have National Grid come
▶ 37:25 Mark Garipay: up and they can, they, if you wanna just ask the questions, we'll write 'em down and we can ask National Grid when they come up. Yeah, I'm, I'm just curious because it's gonna be National grid that'll Going, but it's gonna be fed from the pole across the street. Preferably It would, it would be Fed. Okay. So then there's gonna be conduit going from the pole next to my house. We're gonna across To, Let me, let me, let me have national grid come up. Okay. Let me just, you're from National Grid, correct. Do you mind coming up and just explaining what, what's, what's, uh, where the pole's gonna be? Yeah. The scope of The project, the gist of it is we've had, uh, change in gas pipes, water pipes, the street's a mess.
▶ 37:58 Mm-hmm. If they're gonna do more digging, are we gonna get repaved? I'm sorry. Will they rep pave the street? Um, that would be a matter of the DPW and some funding To meet you. Hey, thank you very much. My name is, can you tell Us the scope of the project, please? Yes, Rafael from National Grid one 70 met fourth Street Molding. So yeah, it was initially a request from the church, eh, and actually the pole is on a handicap parking spot. Parking, parking place. So it's not as difficult as we think we just gonna be re replacing or removing the pole from the actual place to the other side of the road. Uh, in responding the question, the sir, uh, is gonna be, the church is gonna be fed by overhead lines,
▶ 38:47 so it's not gonna be any digging in that case. And it will be like, also in the case we were discussing, and we did like the site visit with the city engineer because just in front it's like, uh, two family houses that they are planning like to open the driveway. So we are planning just to put the pole in the middle of the property line, and also we gonna add, do a sidewalk restoration in the case that is, is needed. So the, the, the connection from the live pole to the new pole will be in the air In there? Yes, sir. So, And that'll also be from the air, from the new pole to the church? Exactly. Thank You. You're welcome. And, and the new pole will be across, across from the current pole? Yes. Uh, almost like diagonal we would like in front,
▶ 39:41 but knowing that they planning to open the driveway, so we don't want to be in the middle. So we just want like to move it like, kind of like three feet more to the, it, it's a, it is, uh, strange because even like there is a, there it should be, it's a sidewalk, so we cannot see it. Only part of the road has sidewalk. Other part is not even, it is pulled the way. So we prefer like to move it like three feet and put it like where we definitely see the sidewalk. Okay. Um, there may be some questions, but before we, is there anyone else that wants to speak regarding, regarding this order? Public, Uh, David Bliss again, um, 16 Howard Street, Melrose. Um, I was under the impression when I read, uh,
▶ 40:41 the, the work order that, uh, there was an option to be underground the, from the pole, from the new pole across the street to our, uh, building. No, because I mean, right now we have a hazardous situation with the masthead. Um, another solution to that would be to move the masthead to a, to a different location away from a, the, uh, the, uh, uh, porch. Yes. Okay. So, eh, in that case, actually as a designer, eh, I didn't even, uh, realize on that option because we don't allow as national grid to an underground service or an underground cable in that case will be customer owned. So the cable will be owned by the church. So we cannot allow, like normal people have facilities on public way. That's something only allow for utilities.
▶ 41:47 Mark Garipay: So that was the reason that I was to avoid that. And even I need to ask in that case, and all the civil War has to be done by the customer in the case that we go and move forward for with that option. That's the reason I even didn't, uh, think in that option. Okay. And will be more like expensive for, for the, yeah. For the church. So we're trying to avoid all this cost to the, This, um, this is the ward that I represent. Um, so I'm still, I'm learning a little bit about it. Yes. I think there's a lot of confusion. Yes. I think I would prefer to see that we, we hold this, this poll and get some more information, whether it's gonna be underground, above ground, make sure we, um, in inform all the residents.
▶ 42:34 Mark Garipay: Because I believe there was another call this morning regarding the pole in, in, on that street. So, um, I, I, as a ward counselor, I would prefer to hold this and get all the information and maybe sit out there with, go out there with the residents before we, before we start, um, make sure everyone's on the same page, but I can't make that motion. I'll make a motion to Hold Second On discussion. Council Hamilton. So The document before us does request permission to lay and maintain underground laterals, cables, and wires in the above or intersecting public ways. So that's what's before us and that's different. Different. So yeah. Yeah, we hold this, Um, all in favor of holding this. Aye aye aye, aye. All right.
▶ 43:31 This poll, uh, request is held, and, um, as soon as you have all the information, just file it again with the city clerk or just come back with us. We'll set it up for the next meeting. Tell us when you're ready and we'll, we'll discuss it again. Okay. Oh, for me it's no problem, but I, I already, we already, I visited with the city engineer, so I don't understand like the, maybe the misunderstanding, but I can submit it again if that's what you want. Um, if you don't mind, I just have a quick question regarding holding that is, what is the impact, uh, or urgency in moving that pole? Because the pole actually, uh, is, is in, is placed in a handicap parking space. So everybody's hitting the pole when we're try,
▶ 44:19 Maya Jamaleddine: when they are trying to to park. So the impact is on, um, uh, on individuals that are, uh, disabled or are using thera? Yes, initially that, that's the first one. And also like the risk that somebody finally hit and broke the pole in the pole falls, it would be like a major issue. Okay. Did we, uh, have, uh, any incidents that were reported directly on the, in terms of this specific pole? Yes. The word request was created by the, by the church directly. They were the one who request if we can move the pole to another place. Okay. And, uh, now if we get all that, if you get all the information and present it back to us, do you know how long it would take you to, So, so actually the, one of the things
▶ 45:11 that are holding this process is just the pulley hearing after that is going to be like in the queue of the constructions. So probably after it's, it is approved, it's gonna take between three and four months. Usually it's like the, like that's the least of the jobs that are already in q on queue. Okay. But probably, obviously that is something that is important for the city. We can talk and probably they can be, eh, doing it like faster. Any, uh, temporary solution that we can, um, do right now, uh, while we are waiting for this to proceed. So the only solution will be that somebody break the pole and we need to do it like in a, in emergency, but That's not solution. Um, any kind of, um, uh,
▶ 46:05 Maya Jamaleddine: probably like flashing, um, you know, like reflective, uh, lights or We can, I can request that that's not difficult and that they can put like, like you said, flashing and highlighting objects that can make the pull notice more or maybe painted. But obviously the best solution will be to move the pole. Okay. I would request if we can do it, um, uh, while we are waiting on this, uh, order to proceed. Yes. So if you can just, uh, um, expedite that, uh, request and just put it so that we ensure, um, somehow, you know, those that are impacted by the delay. Yes. I, and, and I want also like to, to explain something else. So in nash, when National Grid has an agreement with Verizon, so usually all the poles,
▶ 46:56 the young on poles are 50 50. That means that 50 belongs to National Grid. The other 50 belongs to the, to Verizon. So national ag in the contract, national grid is the one who installed the pole. So I'm just asking for the permission to install the new pole. Then we remove national grid assets to a new pole, but we cannot remove the pole until, in this case, Verizon remove their assets and they are the one who needs to remove it. But in this case, I noticed that not only Verizon has assets on the pole, in this case, I think no wrong also the city because I see like fire alarm wire on it. So the city needs also to remove the fire alarm wires to allow them to remove it. So you, so you moving your, uh, as is not going
▶ 47:44 Maya Jamaleddine: to resolve the problem is actually not delaying anything. Whether we proceeded today or not, it's going to stay until two other, um, uh, entities will move their assets as well. Right. It's a, it's a good, it's a good appreciation and it's a good question. But finally, it's, it is delaying it because if we don't put the new pole, anybody's gonna be doing anything. So finally, if we put the pole, it's the half of the way to allow other people, um, move their things. Got it. Got it. Is that the only pole, uh, in a city that is, um, plucking handicap ramp? So probably, I, I cannot respond that I don't, but I haven't noticed other one, but probably should be other ones, like specifically like in a handicap uh, parking space.
▶ 48:39 I don't know. Probably it's in interfering other things. Okay. So the thing when, when I, I visited, we check and I, we were trying like, to move forward and we realized that the pole already has an easement from, from the we. So National Grid had an easement on that pole, so probably before it a handicapped parking lot. But now it is so Perfect. Thank you. No, you're welcome. Thank you. If, if, if, If we decided that we were not going to go underground tonight with that change, We've already voted to hold it, so it's held. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, um, yeah, that we've, we, we've done a final vote to hold it. So, okay. Um, this, this satisfies the public hearing. We have another meeting. This could get, get approved in,
▶ 49:38 Mark Garipay: uh, in Dec Uhto. August. August. Uh, when's our up meeting? August 18th. August 18th is when we could Okay. When we could vote for final approval. I just would like to have a little bit more information. It just seems to be a little confusion. Me personally. Yes. Uh, but, So I have to resubmit before, how, how, how much time before the August 18th? I have to, I'm Sorry. How much time do I have to resubmit all the documentation before, uh, August 18th at One? We can, we can follow up with you. We can work Jay and we can follow up with you on, on that. So I have Council Hamilton, um, uh, and Council Vanover. Thank you. So the, the poll that's there now, do you have any idea how long it's been there?
▶ 50:26 Ward Hamilton: Probably, yes. Probably more than 35, 40 years. So the issue is that the pole blocks a handicap space? Yes. Actually it's just in the, in the handicap parking space. So when the pole was installed, was that a handicap space? I, I dotted I think that it wasn't This. Alright, I'm gonna, I'm trying to be brief. Yeah, yeah, no, no. I'm trying to lay the groundwork for before they come back in and I'll cut right to it. So there's a pole that runs, connects to the church, and it's, right now it's up in the air, the connections from the pole. Yes. And we want to put a pole across the street. Yes. And the question is whether then we connect to the church underground or through the air. So in, in my petition, that wasn't like the, the issue.
▶ 51:16 We just want to move the pole in the, in my ca in myop in my idea was always connecting the church by our an overhead service. I, I'm Sorry. So, uh, in, in that was not in my, my discussion in, in my idea always was to connect the church by an overhead service overhead. Okay. Thank You. Yes. No, you're welcome. Um, So I don't wanna put words in the other gentleman who came up and in his mouth we spoke, but it seems that that's a concern whether it's overhead service Concern with this. Right. Okay. Alright. And, and clear. It's not lock hit. I was, I was just gonna speak. Alright, Alright. Alright. We gotta take control of this. Um, this is public. No more questions. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Um, thank you Paul. So
▶ 52:08 Kimberly Vandiver: This is going to be, be held. We have councilor Ro and councilor, I'm All set. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, I just, um, in light of the discussion, and even if it had been approved and denied, it'd be three to four months. I wanted to check whether there's a possibility to just move the paint and move so that there's not a parking spot or a handicapped parking spot right there by that pole. And take, take out that parking spot for now. Maybe put it back in. If the pole has been moved, That would, that would be up to the church, not, not national grid. So It, it's, it's possible. Um, the way the, so the, the poll is literally on the line. I I'm looking at it, right. I'm, I'm looking on Oh, wonderful.
▶ 52:54 The Google map. So I see. Yeah, So it's possible it could be moved to the middle. It's more, um, for, uh, you know, handicap spot is 12 feet wide. And so part of that is access to the porch for re you know, people walking in. So it, it makes it a little bit difference. No one has ever hit the pole, to my knowledge from the handicapped side. Um, It's, It's only because that last spot is so narrow. So, we'll, uh, we'll wait for, for more information. Jay will hopefully get back to us on, on that. We'll set up another meeting. If we have to do a site visit, we'll do that. Um, thank you. So that, that order, 1, 2, 7 7 3 will be held until the, uh, October City Council meeting. You do have one national grid.
▶ 54:01 Does have another poll Petition id. 1 2 7 7 4. Utility petition for National Grid to install the Jo Pole North Cedar Park number 3 1 0 6 7 3 2 6. Thank you. And in this case is for safety issues because the, the poll that the last pole that is used to feed 22 inside park, um, it is like 180 feet away from the house. So that's more than the, our standard always. That is only one 20 feet. And actually also it is, it's not area trespassing because we had an, we have an easement, but the neighbor is, is against that. We is still using his driveway. So we want to solve this issue between the neighbors. So we need a new pole and go directly from over the property line, solving that issue with between the neighbors.
▶ 55:02 Mark Garipay: Any questions? What's Make a motion to recommend second Motion to recommend? Uh, or approve. Or approve, yes. Sorry. Yeah. Proof. Final, uh, ID 1 12 7. Seven four made by councilors. Uh, counselor Williams. I'm called Stewart, sorry. And seconded by Councilor Ro on discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? That will be, that poll will be recommended. Um, that concludes our business. I believe everything. I think we got everything that includes our business. The hearing. Okay. Is it the hearing to close the hearing or, Uh, make motion to close the hearing. Sorry. Moved. So made by Council Jamal and second, and by Council Vandiver on discussion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. The hearing is closed. Now we are.