Appropriations & Oversight Committee — 2022-06-02

Appropriations and Oversight Budget Hearing

Attendance

Christopher Cinella present · President, ex oficio; Jack Eccles present; Mark Garipay present; Jen Grigoraitis present · Chair; Maya Jamaleddine present; Manjula Karamcheti present; Shawn M. MacMaster present; Leila Migliorelli present · Vice Chair; John Obremski present; Robb Stewart present; Ryan Williams present

Agenda

Minutes

CITY OF MELROSE APPROPRIATIONS & OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CALENDAR● JUNE 2, 2022 Council Chamber, First Floor, Melrose City Hall Budget Hearing 7:00 PM 562 Main Street, Melrose, MA 02176 Attendee Name Title Status Arrived Jen Grigoraitis Chair Present Leila Migliorelli Vice Chair Present Shawn M. MacMaster Present Jack Eccles Present Mark Garipay Present Maya Jamaleddine Present Robb Stewart Present Manjula Karamcheti Present John Obremski Present Ryan Williams Present Christopher Cinella President, ex oficio Present

ORDER-2022-119 Operating Budgets (City, School, Regional School) City of Melrose Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2023 in the amount of $95,256,080 (Ninety Five Million, Two Hundred Fifty-Six Thousand and Eighty Dollars) Hold Appropriations & Oversight Committee

ORDER-2022-118 Grant Acceptance of the FY22 AED Grant Program awarded to the Melrose Fire Department by the Executive Office of Public Safety and Security's Office of Grants and Research (OGR), in the amount of $2,500.00. Ought to Pass

ORDER-2022-121 Enterprise Fund Ambulance Enterprise Operating Budget for Fiscal 2023 in the amount of $1,001,312 (One Million, One Thousand, Three Hundred and Twelve Dollars). Ought to Pass City of Melrose Page 1 6/3/2022 12:37 PM

Transcript

▶ 0:00 Jen Grigoraitis: Okay, good evening. It is Monday June 2nd 2022. The time is 7 pm and this is a meeting of the Appropriations and oversight committee. I am councilor Grigoraitis the chair and joining me tonight are Vice chair. Migliarelli and counselors McMaster Echols. Garapay. Jamala, Dean Stewart Carm Shady obremski Williams and president sonella ex-officio this serves as a notice of the Quorum for the record. In accordance with the open meeting law this meeting is being recorded in broadcast on our local cable access Channel mmtv, as well as live streamed on the mmtv website and available for future viewing through the city of melrose's meeting portal at this time. I will motion by unanimous consent to open public comment.

▶ 0:44 Jen Grigoraitis: Seeing the objection public comment is now open. We do not have anyone present with us tonight. Do we have anyone online? There's no online at this time. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. So seeing no one wishing to speak in public comment. I will motion by unanimous consent to close public comment. Seeing no objection public comment is now closed. We have several Department budgets before us tonight all related to our fire department. And I know we have Chief Kalina here to join us. So if you want to come up to the table Chief and get settled, I will entertain a motion to suspend the rules so we can hear from the chief just spend the world. So we have a motion to suspend the rules made by President Cinella seconded by counselor Karm chady

▶ 1:23 all in favor any opposed the rules are suspended and so Chief we have you here tonight to talk about Department 2021 and then also the ambulance Enterprise fund. It's welcome. Thank you for being here. your choice You have in a funny. It's a pretty modest increase. In the overtime. I'm sorry in the Sally and Wages that's reflecting the believable contractual increases at the union was able to achieve. Really nothing much much more to that any questions on it. Any questions from counselors? No. Oh Council McMaster. Thank you madam. Chair. Good evening Chief. Thank you for being here. looking under Fire contractual We look at. 2023 mayor's budget. It looks like it's an increase there up to 100,000 but

▶ 2:52 it doesn't say there's a percent change. That is an increase, isn't it? On the ambulance one. No, we're we're talking about fire, aren't we? We started with ambulance. My apologies. I thought we started with fire chief. We mixed it up just to keep it extra no questions on the ambulance tonight. I'm sure. All right. So if there's no questions on the ambulance Enterprise fund that's a separate order. So why don't we move to the fire budget Sorry, can you move to the fire budget? Yes. Thank you. okay, again, the a small increase again in the salaries again the contractual and we have a increase in the overtime to compensate for that increase. in the salaries that's in the salary and wages and then some minor increases

▶ 3:55 to help gathers in line with a training and OSHA requirements and if to get our fit testing for the medical masks that we all have to wear we have to be tested on that annually and it's looked at Contracting it out and it was about 8,000 and then we also looked at. Purchasing the equipment and testing. I'm sorry training. Up to six employees to do the training in-house and that came in that just under $3,000. So that's the cheaper way to go to compliance with the ultra requirements. The other increase you'll see in the professional service line. The annual Hazmat training that we have to do and that went up in price from last year. But that's the the increase there. And that's more that's that train is going to be a more of a practical training this

▶ 5:01 year where we'll go out and actually do a while Hands-On. drill marked up drill training to coming in coming to compliance with OSHA first respond to her hazardous materials training and then the other increase you'll see there is the Metro News. The Metro dues is the fire chiefs dues. For Metro Fire Metro Fire is 36 communities within the Metropolitan Boston area and they haven't gone up in dues in 20 years and they informed his last year that they were going to go up. To an additional 2500 to make it a total $5,000 annually. for the dues to belong to Metro Fire a Metro Fire they'll run when we have multiple on fires. They have a Dispatch Center that we we call and we can get the resources needed and believe a

▶ 6:07 Shawn M. MacMaster: lot of the money goes funding those. duties the dispatch the the Run cards just running the system. So it's a very much needed resource. Council McMaster, thank you madam chair. Thank you Chief. My apologies. So with respect to fire contractual it looks like it's level funded at 100,000 but The prior if we move to the left for mayor mayor's budget proposed budget. We've spent in this current fiscal year roughly under $80,000. Do we anticipate spending the remainder of what was budgeted for? Motor vehicle repairs and maintenance before the end of the fiscal year and if so on what yeah my motor vehicle repair I have I just checked it today. About 17,000 left on that and my engine tool. Is been in the shop getting a

▶ 7:14 Shawn M. MacMaster: PM, so I haven't got the bill on that yet. But yeah, we expect I don't believe I'll get it to zero, but it'll be It'll be used and then I have a later one. That needs to go out for some PM. That's it's constant. Okay, the pm has to every 2050 hours engine hours. It's recommended that the truck goes out for preventive maintenance stay on top of things. Well, I'm pleased to see chief that level-funded I think is you, you know, it's leave. This is my fifth budget now and every time you've come before us there's been a slight increase in that actual line item, which in large part was based on us not keeping up with with our apparatus and I know that something you've advocated for it's something this console has been responsive to so is

▶ 8:03 Shawn M. MacMaster: it is it fair to say that the reason we're not seeing a 21 to 24% increase like prior years is because we've replaced aging apparatus. That's correct. And we've also kept up what up prevent a maintenance which prevents the major malfunctions. It's easy to get them when a problem is first developing before you blow an engine which would happen on engine too many to I think it was maybe three years ago now and that cost $40,000 to fix that's it, you know. So one of the things she could PM would have caught that earlier. One of the things I know we've talked about this and I know Consuela gregoritis and I have had conversations about the importance of having a vehicle replacement plan. So it's

▶ 8:52 Shawn M. MacMaster: something I do think we should really work towards so that we're looking at the needs of our of our fire apparatus, you know, as as time goes on as opposed to waiting until we're at a point where you know, a vehicle is aged to the point where we're having to invest significant money and when you're having to come back before us to go even above what was asked, Or budgeted for in a particular fiscal year because I know in the past, you know, we have done that so good job to you for at least, you know getting us to the point. We're not seeing that increase. It does raise a question though about the the current state of our of our ladder truck. So right now we we actually have three ladder trucks. We have the new latter one,

▶ 9:35 Shawn M. MacMaster: which is being host. At the central fire station, that's correct. We have the old ladder one which right now is is parked in the in the alley between Memorial Hall and the fire station, correct? And then there's latter two, which is that's an engine 3. It's packed up in ancient 3 station. Yes. and so is the plan to eventually take the current latter one the one that's parked outside. And keep it in service but to have that be the new. Ladder to when the new latter one goes online. Is that is that the plan and that's correct and that will sell what's currently up or attempt to sell attempt to sell. Correct? What's currently up at engine 3, correct? Okay, is there. What's the plan if you know?

▶ 10:30 for addressing the latter truck that we are parking outside in an alley and it's been there now for probably a month just under a month. Yes. What's the plan for that? So the plan is to build on to the Tremont Street Fire Station a Bump out I call the dog house but a bump out of about 20 feet. Off of one of the bays at the Tremont Street fire station. The Tremont Street Fire Station apparatus floor was is a it's a slab. It's there's no basement under it. So it's in perfect condition it can hold the weight. But the length of a truck the tractor tires just get into the threshold. So 20 feet would wouldn't build an app and put in a new garage door on it and put the truck inside the building keep the

▶ 11:32 equipment safe and keep the elements off the truck. So they're concerns now about about the latter truck that we've taken out of. The central fire station and we're parking outside as they're concerns about the elements having an adverse effect on that on that ladder truck from a I guess the safety perspective in terms of what needs to function when our firefighters are respond. Yes, I mean you know currently right now it's outside and You know it rained last night so we can't keep our gear on it because you can't lock the truck. We can't keep our radios on it. Because I don't want someone it's more of a security concerned farming that someone coming through the alleyway could just take a piece of Public

▶ 12:20 Shawn M. MacMaster: Safety Equipment and you know when it's in the fire station, it's secured. But I do have less concerns than if it was wintertime the cold elements ice building up on the truck and you know within five minutes with someone would have to climb up that it would be a safety issue. I do remember raising concerns when the the order came before us to to approve the request for the latter track of multiple is the current the request for the new ladder truck. Is it is it going to fit and I know that it does but then what what's going to happen with? The other ladder truck and what does that mean for the third ladder truck? And I recall at that time you you thinking ahead about it. And I also recall sitting in in a

▶ 13:11 Shawn M. MacMaster: meeting with the administration and consulate Jamal Dean and counselor Stuart last spring. And it being raised that they're there was a plan in that and you weren't in that meeting but that the administration raised that there was a plan and we would be seeing an order come before us. Do you know why that that didn't happen to your knowledge? I do not know the answer to that. Was it your understanding that the administration was going to put forward in order to fund a bump out or some some type of a structure that would house the the truck that would be taking that the new ladder truck would be replacing. I put my request to facilities in March or April of last year. And there was some discussions.

▶ 13:59 I met with the Samson and Western and Samson Samson and Western I'm not sure how it goes. on-site and there was a couple of different plans flowed around. My original plan was just what I just described. Then there were other plans possibly putting it in a tent but then we're concerned about rodents. climbing up in nesting in it and doing more damage, so It one full circle and now it's back to just doing this bump out. So did you make a recommendation though to the administration for what you think would be the appropriate structure to house ladder truck? Where I did? And when you say facilities meaning that would fall under the director of DPW. Yes. and that there was no no affirmative steps or communication to

▶ 14:58 Shawn M. MacMaster: you from that level about what is going to happen knowing that this new truck was going to be delivered the new truck was supposed to be delivered in November. And you know, thank God it wasn't but this pass November. Yeah, but due to covid and some Shutdowns at the factory and supply chain issues. It was delayed and we just took receipt of it on May 3rd. And if we're going to if the if the plan is to sell. the current latter two Then we'll have a place to house both of the ladder trucks. Why would we I understand we need to put this truck somewhere right now. Why would we build something out if it's not going to be needed in the long term? Well the current latitude which is a 1995 E1 so it's

▶ 15:57 20. Six almost 27 years old my math is right. And the NPA standard said we shouldn't be on it after 20 years. Okay. But we're pumped the boatload of money to keep it seaworthy for lack of a better word and say for the firefighters that operate on it. That's a different truck than this truck. We spent. To give you the history. If you don't know it when we bought that truck. It didn't fit it headquarters. So it was up at engine 3 for many years and then they I think they put $200,000 into the apparatus full of headquarters to shore up the weight of the the apparatus because this building over here. was built for heartstrong carriages and the apparatus is getting bigger and it's heavier and the water demands. I mean our engines carry 750

▶ 16:51 gallons when I got on there were 500 gallons, but we had three pumps so we could deliver 1500 gallons, which is required by the ISO. So now we only have two engines so our tanks are 750. We still meet in the requirement, but we're doing it with two engines. If we got a 1500 gallon tank, it wouldn't fit in any of our buildings the apparatus. Our buildings are old to Antiquated. They don't meet our needs. but the ladder does And again, we don't have a weight issue on the floor of engine toe because it's on a slab. It's just a length. And we needed the bump out. about 20 feet to to get that enclosed and then normally there's an engine company spare engine stored at Engine 2. I would relocate that up to the east side.

▶ 17:44 with the latter is that we would get rid of. If I know it's kind of confusing maybe but so are you saying one way or the other that a bumper would would house something some some vehicle? We don't sell it would only would house the ladder truck because that's my longest ladder. So with because we can't go up and hide in the truck because it won't fit in the building we have to Have a lower profile, but it's longer. The trucks 100 72 inches long, which I think is 57. 57 feet long and our apparatus Bays headquarters that can accommodate it But you know. Okay. Thank you counselor pay. Thank you counselor McMasters last couple of questions. I have regarding maintenance but just for clarification.

▶ 18:39 Mark Garipay: the reason why the replacement of And E1. I think we're calling it The Old ladder truck. Yeah, the Tiller that we're going to keep the only fits in the Main Street Station, correct? Right, correct. Okay, and that's the whole whole reason for that. In fact one. We have fires a mutual Aid when we bring in a surrounding Community a lot of company to cover the city. They have to park outside because their trucks don't fit in because they're not buying trucks to fit in our divine trucks to fit in their own stations, but it does not fit in Melrose. So that's why we get the truck. the way it's what it's all fits in this building. And regarding the salaries everything's contractually had mentioned. When do we have

▶ 19:26 Mark Garipay: any contracts up this year fire contracts? The fire contract will be going on July 1 will be going into the last year of its lifespan. So they they should be going from negotiations in January sometime. So that doesn't affect this year's fy23 budget. Can you? See in here that you wanted to. put in another line item in for for mattresses and we have 20 mattresses and we're only replacing four. I'll often do we change those out. I mean that seems like something that we should. I've been cheap four years. I've never purchased them and I know chiefly every did but I don't know what yeah that was. And so we're only going to do we're going to go on a cycle. We do four years that I think that I requested that but I think that I yeah.

▶ 20:27 Just there's a free cash order that's coming before us on the if you look at the June 6th Council agenda. There's that's part of a free cash order. I don't know how many mattresses it's for but there is a request. I didn't see anything. I saw General but I didn't see any specific on those but and can you go into just to give me a little educate me a little bit on what goes into the administrative fees at a collected and the in the master box fees that are collected. Sure. So the administrative fees is the it's the details the fire details that we have. And if you look in at the increased last year. That was due to the project down. On office Waynes Pond the Patrick's Patrick's place. So Patrick's way.

▶ 21:21 There was a lot of blasting going on down there that required fire details. And how about the master box? So the master box the master box of the red fire boxes that you see on buildings. And the Buildings file-op systems are connected to that Master box. So when the fire alarm goes off it automatically transmits the alarm through the Firebox right into all three fire stations instantaneous. So my fire alarm superintendent, he maintains the wise on the city side and we charge a small fee of $250 for a site for all the master boxes that are all throughout the city. We waved all the fees last year due to covid and and they're still collecting, but that's that's where we are so far for our fiskier 22.

▶ 22:13 At 34,000. and then the fire response times I was looking at and we're above the recommended standard of 90% Can you just explain a little bit how that process goes from the time we take a call and when does the windows that clocks that ticking I guess. So there's a couple of points that you can track. We just track when we dispatch the call, but the event really happens whatever the event is if it's a fire it's when it's first noticed. And then people call 911 and then the police will call us. So it could be a minute delay before we get the call. Not a delay, but just as it goes through its process. But the clock and these are the stat. Is when we do actually do the dispatch and the stats and then I wraparatus.

▶ 23:11 And the NPA 1710 recommends the standard we be hit in 90% of our response times within six minutes. And you can see that the three years data there. Last year, we hit at 91.2% of the times that we were better than the standard. and and that's due to the three stations, you know, the city's pretty much well covered no matter where it is our response time. So I would say probably in the four the five minute range and that's including the time the call comes in to the What we call out the shoot time, you know, once it's dispatched it might take them a minute. To two minutes to get out depending what the call is if it's a fire type call. It's going to be a little slow getting out because they're putting all their safety equipment on.

▶ 24:06 Mark Garipay: Before they respond if it's a medical Aid call on a day like today. They probably just grabbing it. a jacket and off there going to the call, so they'll probably getting out the door. About 45 seconds to a minute and a half. Yeah, when I saw that time, I was was pretty amazed at. It's that quick and when they get the call and run out, that's a great job. parking the ladder truck on the side. You said when I keep in as much equipment on it. And I know that's only temporary because the other truck will be online. The new truck will be online fairly soon. I'm assuming Is there any so I'm just waiting on as a result of that? Yeah, so, I don't know the time frame because we're waiting for some equipment to come in like we just got a new battery.

▶ 24:56 Hurst tools that we purchased for it it needs to be lettered. mocked up The membership needs to be trained on it to some subtle differences, even though the trucks look the same. Operationally there's there's some new meters flow meters and things like that if we had the big fire. And we put a hydraulic. Power steering in the teleportion of the truck. And that's different than the other power steering. So it's actually It's it's really nice, but we just don't want the the members to just think they know how to drive a truck. You're going to get out and practice when you're not responding so that you you get a good feel for it. So we're not damaging it. So this does some some training that has to go on before cause equipment

▶ 25:52 training and it needs to be let it But having the having the Latta truck outside the station, will it slow down any response time or do you feel it really doesn't slow the response time down other than the fact that they have to come down. I at night time it the truck gets moved to this between City Hall and the fire station because the dispatch is right on the lower level there and that's man 24/7. So the thought process if someone went to open cabinet doors that person would hear someone on this side of the building where there's no one on the other side. But we bring like I say a firefighting gear inside and our radios the portable real estate. Where on there. Over their shoulder and we just put it on a table at this back here.

▶ 26:43 Mark Garipay: so in the daytime if the gear is still back here they had to come back here to get together then go out the front door and over to the Memorial Hall side, but I haven't seen any significant delays. operating this way I want to get it inside soon. Okay. I'm just gonna make a comment. This is kind of the first hearing that we're potentially adding on to another I built another fire station to store a piece of equipment when we're in the middle of a study of all of our Public Safety buildings. It's a little concerning that and I know this wasn't started but it's a little disappointing that this wasn't resolved prior to the new truck coming in and and we're in the middle of a public safety study and would potentially

▶ 27:35 be looking to invest in a building that we don't even know what we're going to do with could be in the next three four years. It's It's quite concerning and a little disappointing to be honest with you. I know that's another. Design Group, but thank you. Well, we if I may we've known for decades that there's a space issue with fire apparatus as A the job one from just fighting fires to now it's medical AIDS. It's Hazmat. We have Hazmat Trails. We have all sorts of now where Tech rescue. It there's a lot that we weren't doing 50 years ago that we're doing now and if you go back to when that building was built 130 years ago. the job's changed and about this we've done studies before and the needs of

▶ 28:25 Manjula Karamcheti: the needs and that's all I got to say on that. Council crime JD Chief thank you so much for being here because I have the opportunity that I first just wanted to say thank you for what you do and for what your team does since I was a Brownie troop leader and a girl scout leader when we're bringing kids to go see the stations. It's always been like a really nice Community activity to participate in and everyone's always been so good to the kids and being home from covid for the past few years. I didn't realize how often the fire department was in my neighborhood. But every time you're there the residents are treated. Well, they're supported they're cared for so I just really appreciate that and would be

▶ 29:15 Manjula Karamcheti: interested to learn more in the future about what the needs are. I am a newer counselor, but just really appreciate the work that you do the one question that I did have. We've talked a lot about old ladder truck one I have noticed in many residents have noticed that there is some native. American imagery on that truck and I'm just curious if there are any plans to remove it given sort of where we are as a city and as a nation. Yes. There is a plan the new truck will not have any of those markings on it. And the person that we do in the lettering of the truck. Is already designed out re-lettering the truck that we are going to keep. They're going to take the sign board off. They're going to reach a strip it.

▶ 30:04 Maya Jamaleddine: And it's just going to say Melrose ladder 2 on it. No. nothing else be very very neutral. Thank you. I appreciate you appreciate that very much. Counselor jimaldean, thank you. Thank you Chief. I do have a question about the ambulance projected Revenue. I have noticed that with Medicare and Medicaid and the collection rates have is very impressive actually 90% 96% I do see with other insurances and patient build is 70% and patient build is down to 2% I can totally understand when the patient is well directly why it's that low when with other insurances do who does the collection so we have contracted with professional ambulance services. They're out of Cambridge. and they do a billing and collections

▶ 31:06 Maya Jamaleddine: For 4% fee of what's collected? And so it's been pretty good. I believe the the rate on the Medicare is increasing this year, which is why things are being able to be stabilized. What an increase? Yeah. So so I guess my question if we are contracted with a company the company is responsible to do especially when it comes to insurances directly. They're supposed to deal with them and these bills should be collected at least with a higher rate from that 70% Is there are we giving any feedback or contacting them that this is not. The rate that is, you know, we're expecting or are we looking to other? companies that might be more well, we put it out the bid in. Professional ambulances the one that met the bid specs for

▶ 32:05 the billing. It's all projection, you know, and I believe every year. We project around 1,600 transports. For the fire department ambulance we do more but sometimes the private ambulances will pick up what we can't because we're already on calls. I think this year I don't I didn't bring my file on that. So apologize. I think what projected for about 1,700 transports. and You know. I yeah, this is one of those on the collection rate, you know, but the staff at Pro ambulance. They're the ones that chase down. You know the billing so we do our reports and then it just gets submitted electronically to problem. If you get transported now, they'll probably have all the information for billing. within an hour, it's all done electronically, and

▶ 33:02 I don't think they keep staff 24/7 but that's how that's how quick it works and Yes, so would would you be the person who is communicating directly with those contractors to tell them? Okay why this is not no. Well, like I say. The rates are set by. the insurance companies, you know, I mean we have our rates set here and then The insurance companies pay it if it's Medicare, it's a it's a set rate doesn't matter how much actually goes into the yeah the workup of a patient. And then there were some people that unfortunately can't can't afford it. And you know, we just eat those that service but we provide the service we don't worry about the money. We would provide Top Notch service to the residents. No,

▶ 33:50 Maya Jamaleddine: I totally understand when it's it comes to patients. No matter how low is the percentage it it's fine. I wouldn't even mention it. But when it comes to insurances, I would expect that. You know, if we can collect it from insurance is because they're getting paid by the patients. Yeah, we should be able to collect the most possible. So that's what it is. Do you do we know? What was the rate the year before? I don't have it in front of me. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thanks. Any other questions Council of Vice chairman Glee Riley, thank you madam chair. Thank you Chief. Nice to see you tonight. Just a question about the bump out project. Just so I can understand this correctly since this is the first time we're

▶ 34:37 hearing about it. Is that something you've already requested that there's a request that has been made to fund this bump out project and a timeline is this or is this a question for DBW? I it's probably a question for DBW. I made my request too deep BBW for the need what I needed and they run the facility so I mean What an architect cost or it's all in my head, you know? Did you make that request? In when we received this the new fire truck like at what point did you make that request of DPW that you noticed that you needed to bump out last year last year? Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other questions? I will entertain a motion to move the bottom line and Department 221 ocean of move the bottom line Second. So you have a motion

▶ 35:31 Jen Grigoraitis: to move the bottom line and Department 221 made by counselor garapay seconded by councilor Karm chadie any discussion Seeing none Mr. Clerk. Can you please call the roll Vice chairman? Yes. Counselor McMaster. Yes counselor Eccles. Yes castlegarapay. Yes counselor. Jamaladin. Yes counselor Stewart. Yes councilor crime Genie. Yes counselor bremski. Yes counselor Williams. Yes, president sonella. Yes and chair Grigoraitis. Yes, that's 11. Yes. And yes, so that carries and chief. If you can just bear with us for one second for some procedural gymnastics. We can get all of your things done in one while you're sitting up there. So I would entertain a motion to take order 2022-18 out of order. some of the second so you have a motion to take order

▶ 36:20 Jen Grigoraitis: 2022-18 out of order made by counselor Stewart's seconded by Councilor Williams all in favor. Aye any approaches Okay. So now before us is 2022-2018 acceptance of the fy22 AED grant program awarded to the Melrose fire department by the Executive Office of Public Safety and securities office of Grants and research in the amount of 2,500. Anything you'd like to say Chief. It's pretty straightforward. It's it was a grant. That we applied for and received. There's no matching to it. It's up to 2500 dollars. They AED that would like to purchase it's the same of the ones that we already have on the trucks on the engines the ambulance have the bigger. They're not automatic there were life pack, but this is what would go on the engines the

▶ 37:18 cars. It's a free AED. There's no reason why not take to get it. It does across the city anything and if we would have one to go down. Now we'll have a new brand new one ready to be put right in towards place. it also will allow us the the benefit that if we had a detail we could actually give the say an event though Memorial Hall has their own ad we could give it to the detail person to take it as part of their package. you know to just have with them in the event that's needed but yeah, it's pretty straightforward. I don't know the lifespan of these aeds the ones we commonly have I think are close to 10 years. And they operate just fine. So Council McMaster, thank you manager Chief. Is this an adult

▶ 38:17 Jen Grigoraitis: sized AED? Yes. Yeah, so the agz. If it was an infant we'd have to put on. Oh certain age. You wouldn't actually use it at all but infant pads or an adult pad, depending. On the knee but yes can handle a doubt. Thank you. What is the counsel articles? I was gonna make a motion to recommend for passage second. So you have a motion to recommend for passage order 22 2022-18 made by counselor Eccles seconded by Vice chair. Migliarelli any discussion. Seeing none all in favor any opposed. Okay, so that has passed with the recommendation for Passage. I will also entertain a motion to take order 2022-121, which is the ambulance enterprising budget out of order. So moved second. So we have a motion to take

▶ 39:15 Jen Grigoraitis: 2022-121 out of order made by councilor Williams seconded by counselor McMaster all in favor any opposed? Okay, so that order is now before us and I Know Chief you already spoke to that. So what is the will of this committee? I'm sure I'll make a Okay, so we have a motion to recommend on order 2022-121 made by counselor Stewart seconded by President sanela. Is there any discussion? Seeing none Mr. Clerk. Can you please call the roll? Vice chair Migliorelli. Yes. Counselor McMaster. Yes counselor Eccles. Yes counselor garpy. Yes, South sir. Jamaladin. Yes. Counselor Stewart. Yes counselor crime Shady. Yes counselor bremski. Yes counselor Williams. Yes, president. Sonella. Yes and chair greatest. Yes. That's 11. Yes 11. Yes.

▶ 40:10 Jen Grigoraitis: So that will be recommended to the full Council and then we do have Ordered 2022-120 false alarm revenue account number 2665 on our departmental budget, but I don't see that order before us tonight. So we'll just motion to move the bottom line. I'm missing something. That excuse me. I don't think that's not you. Okay. Well, then you can police I believe. Okay, that's police, but it's on for tonight. Got it. Okay. All right. Thank you Chief. My apologies for being confused. No worries. Thank you everybody. Have a good night. So we do have on the next apartment budget order 2022-120 false alarm revenue account number 2665 would entertain a motion to move the bottom line. second so we have emotions move the bottom line made by President. Sonella seconded

▶ 41:07 Jen Grigoraitis: by Vice chairman. Liarelli. All in favor, I any opposed. Okay, that bottom line is. Moved then we have Department 155 information technology. There is a memo in iqm2. Is there any discussion? motion of the bottom line second So we have a motion to move the bottom line made by counselor Eccles seconded by Vice chair. Migliarelli. Is there any discussion Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Vice chairmanelli. Yes counselor McMaster. Yes. Counselor eckels. Yes counsel. Gerepe. Yes counselor. Jamaladin. Yes counselor Stewart. Yes counselor Carm Chi. Yes. Counselor bremsky. Yes. Counselor Williams. Yes president sonella. Yes and chair greitus. Yes. That's 11. Yes. Yes. Okay, then we have Department 9:30, which

▶ 42:06 Jen Grigoraitis: is debt Department equipment, which has a actually at the budget has gone down slightly. There's some information. in iqm, too But the will of this committee. Ocean to move the bottom line. We have a motion to move the bottom line and Department 930 made by counselor Carm Shady seconded by President. Sonella. Is there any discussion Seeing none Mr. Clerk. Can you please call the roll? Vice chair mclarelli. Yes counselor McMaster. Yes counselor Eccles. Yes counselor. Garepe. Yes counselor. Jamaladin. Yes counselor Stewart. Yes counselor crime Shady. Yes. Counselor bremski. Yes counselor Williams. Yes. President sonella. Yes and chair Grigoraitis. Yes. That's 11. Yes Evan. Yes, last but not least. We have Department 931 Capital outlay. This

▶ 42:58 Jen Grigoraitis: is a flat budget with no increase. Potion of the bottom line second. We have a motion to move the bottom line and Department 931 made by Vice Chair migliorelli seconded by President sanela any discussion seeing on Mr. Clerk. Can you please call the roll? Vice chair Migliorelli. Yes. Counselor McMaster. Yes counselor Eccles. Yes counselor garpy. Yes counselor. Jamaladin. Yes counselor Stewart. Yes councilor. Crime Shady. Yes counselor brunski. Yes counselor Williams. Yes, president Salary. Yes and chair greatest. Yes, it's 11. Yes 11. Yes. And then our last order of the evening is 2022-19. City of Melrose operating budget for fiscal year 2023 in the amount of 95,256,080. I will entertain a motion to hold.

▶ 43:55 Jen Grigoraitis: Second so we have a motion to hold made by counselor Stewart seconded by President. Cinella all in favor any opposed that is held and then I will entertain a motion to read. Yes. The ambulance intervention. Yeah, we just did that. So I'll entertain a motion to recess so we can return for our public hearing at APM so moved. Second see if emotions recess made by councilor Rick Messer seconded by councilor Eccles all in favor. I and he opposed we are recessed APM it is 8pm and we now have a public hearing on the fy23 ambulance rates. So if there's anyone wishing to speak. You can make them. don't see anyone wishing to speak. Is there anyone online wishing to speak in the public hearing? Not at this moment. I'm surprised.

▶ 45:07 Jen Grigoraitis: What is the will of this committee? I'd like to make a motion to approve. We just motion to close the public hearing. I would like to make a motion to close the public. Are you second? So we have a motion to close the public hearing on the fy23 ambulance race all in favor opposed. Okay, the public hearing is now closed and then last but least a motion not but at least a motion to adjourn Motion to adjourn second even motion to adjourn made by Vice Chair Migliorelli seconded by councilor Eccles all in favor. Any opposed we are adjourned go Celtics. See you next week. started

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