ORDER-2022-135 : An Appropriation from Free Cash, account 01-324001, in the amount of $783,025.22 (Seven Hundred Eighty-Three Thousand, Twenty-Five Dollars and Twenty-Two Cents) to various Public Works Accounts as set forth herein.

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▶ 1:30:16 Jen Grigoraitis: two knows so that will be recommended for passage to the full Council. I just as a point of information will remind everyone that we are missing two of our colleagues tonight and that in a full Council and appropriation requires eight votes, so to be continued on next week, so thank you all for your presentation on that. We will move right along to thank you. Thank you very much order 2022-135 and appropriation from free cash account zero one - 324001 in the amount of 783,025 and 22 cents to various Public Works accounts as set forth here in and Director for wakeus Ellis and assistant director troop continue to be here with us tonight.

▶ 1:31:09 Speaker 7: Getting the well, there's a number of there are a number of memos that tally to the 783,000.

▶ 1:31:21 Jen Grigoraitis: It's traffic calming trees Melrose High School bathrooms Vehicles Cemetery

▶ 1:31:29 Speaker 4: and Cemetery appropriation

▶ 1:31:32 Speaker 2: Let's start with the vehicles. Yes your portion.

▶ 1:31:39 Speaker 6: so

▶ 1:31:41 Speaker 2: one real benefit of having a new operations manager is a fresh set of eyes. And so we had Joe Hobbs our new operations manager. Inventory all of our Fleet working with Derek lamphere operations foreman and Mike kaleska who was our Fleet Foreman before he left. And then Joe worked together with Jim to put together the recommendations we had about 18 19 vehicles that were in the worst condition and most in need of replacement. And so they pulled together the memo that you have with all the pictures and everything summarizing the condition of the fleet and these top priority vehicles. and then at the conclusion of the memo We included a table showing the vehicles that were over 20 years old. And then we make a recommendation for the replacement of six Vehicles. One of which we'll discuss later in reference to the Sewer fund because it is a sewer division vehicle, but the other five are general fund general fund expenditures that were requesting to fund with 482,000 of free cash. Would you prefer that we go through each item individually or go through all five and then answer questions.

▶ 1:33:06 Jen Grigoraitis: I am happy to just ask if there are questions unless everyone would like to hear about each item individually.

▶ 1:33:15 Speaker 10: Okay, we will keep moving. Okay?

▶ 1:33:20 Speaker 7: so so the next one while Elena is pulling up the next one, she'll present appropriation for 10,620.65 working with the cemetery commissioner Mr. Dan O'Neill. He and the DPW crew that work at the cemetery have identified some specific need. They solicited a quote for lowering device. It's a full kit and will help deliver the services for the funerals at the cemetery. It's an overdue product that's need for them to deliver the services at the cemetery appreciate you consideration.

▶ 1:33:59 Speaker 2: And one quick item to add to that is that we got an appropriation for free cash last year for the cemetery that was for Paving and for completing the digitization project. And our consultant worked a lot slower than we had hoped on the digitization project. So we still have a lot of money left over there and then the paving is planned for the summer. So You know, normally we come in with a with more requests on behalf of the cemetery. But this year we will be doing that other work that was approved last year in addition to requesting this equipment. Excuse me. The next item is the trees. So we are requesting $70,000 to continue to plant trees. This roughly offsets the approximately 125 tree removals that we do per year. So this is essentially a Breakeven but the good news is that last year you all approved $150,000 which was more than we typically get for trees. And once we complete our fall planting this year, we should be all caught up to you can't plant right after you do a removal especially if it's right in the same area because you still have the live roots from the tree that you cut down and we need time to grind the stump and and let everything sort of die off in the area. So, you know, we don't we never expect to be caught up to a tree was taken down yesterday and we're planting a new one today, but we want to be within 12 months of any request. And so we've planted I believe it's 171 trees so far this fiscal year and we have we have a fall planting round all lined up and then this would pay for our spring planting round. And so at the end of fall we'll be caught up. To our within one year and then allowing us to plant in the spring. We'll keep us caught up and keep us from falling behind again.

▶ 1:35:57 Speaker 7: Another group a project in the capital improvement process is going to be the renovation of the high school bathrooms. Front of you for consideration tonight is 150,000 free cash. for the advancement of the design of the Melrose High School bathrooms Several of the fixtures and the rooms themselves are date back to the original construction 1974 and we all know the use that the high school bathrooms take on a day-to-day basis. The 150,000 would go towards a request for qualifications. And then we would expect once a cost estimate and a detailed scope to be presented to us for consideration for us to be back in front of the city council requesting funding to actually perform the construction.

▶ 1:36:51 Speaker 2: And the final item is traffic calming and the amount requested is 70,4044.57. And I think in the past CFO delaroso has typically used either traffic coming or sidewalks. To have the odd number that gets to the total that he's going for because there's no specific reason why it's seventy thousand four hundred four dollars and 57 cents. It was just going to be roughly 70 thousand dollars. I just wanted to note that so they don't think it ties to it exact project that's been estimated at an exact amount. In the memo that we provided I had actually pulled together. Just a couple weeks before in response to a council question about how we've spent past free cash money. I had pulled together the list of all the rapid flashing beacons the solar speed feedback signs, the intersection reconfigurations all the various traffic coming measures that we had done and the Ada curb ramps that we had added for new crosswalks. So because I had just summarized that for this other memo I included it in here just so that the council can see that we are very proactively spending this money as we're getting it and we've made a ton of safety improvements every time I drive down Main Street on my way into work and somebody presses the button at Boardman or Highland. I I'm excited to see the lights flashing and also by the McCarthy house. I drive by three of them just on my way in and they're extraordinarily effective. Hopefully you all agree that when you see those lights flashing they really make a difference. So this year's funding order would would continue to fund the higher priority items on the list. We keep a running list, just so everyone's aware of our process. As residents call for any of these, you know the rfbs or the solar speed feedback signs. For new Ada ramps or intersection modifications we maintain this list. It's in a shared file. So anyone either in engineering or in the DPW office can add to it when someone calls with a specific request and then as money becomes available DPW in the police department work together to identify the highest priority locations. We look at things like What has the highest pedestrian traffic, you know volume? where the speeds the highest where might there be sightline issues or you know other things that make an area just very congested in people are less likely to be looking at the crosswalks and where the blinking lights would help more. So the decisions are made in and also any historic information about crashes. So that's how the decisions are made and you know, we have some known high priority areas where we still want to put them and so this money would go towards those and also, You know intersection modifications. Sometimes they those tend to pop up during our construction projects where we're we're Paving a road and we think you know, we really nice to bump in this intersection a little bit to make the crossing distance a little shorter like we did on Warwick Road at Sears and Dyer. We just just tighten the intersections up a little bit. It makes people drive slower. It makes the crossing distance the shorter. So those types of projects. That's where this funding would go.

▶ 1:40:28 Jen Grigoraitis: I think that's all five things. I know counselor Jamal Dean had a question.

▶ 1:40:32 Maya Jamaleddine: Thank you. I just wanted to make comments on The Meadows high school bathrooms. I'm so happy to hear that. This is something that's gonna happen. Hopefully finally it's way overdue. I know many of our students are either, you know decide not to use the bathroom because they're uncomfortable using it or they end up using the middle school bathrooms because of the current status of our high school bathrooms. So thank you so much for working on that. I also do have a question on the trees how and just for the sake of the public. How do we do you identify the trees that need to be removed?

▶ 1:41:17 Speaker 2: So we have a tree assessment process. Most of our removals come from requests from residents. Usually the direct to butter to the tree if they see the tree is dying or it seems to be dropping a lot of branches during storms and they're starting to get nervous about it. They put in a tree assessment request the public can put a request in on the website under DPW service request or they can call down to the city art or an engineering or you know, speak to any of us and the work order goes in then our tree crew goes out and does the assessments if they feel That they can't confidently make a determination about a specific tree or if they think that it's dead or dying, but just want a second opinion. We do have a certified Arborist on on and on call basis who we call in to do a report. If the tree is deemed that it should come down. We then post the tree we distribute a notice to the immediate of Butters. We do a hearing on request. So if there's opposition we can do a tree hearing and we are now also putting the trees coming down on the website so that we have multiple. levels of notification Although that said our webmaster position is currently open in our new person is not

▶ 1:42:40 Speaker 10: starting till July 5th. So there may be a little Gap if

▶ 1:42:43 Speaker 2: you go to look, you know tomorrow for a specific tree. and then once all that has been done then we schedule the removal if if it's If we're able to remove it, we do it in-house if it's too big for us. We have an on call contractor for that and if it's in and amongst wires, then we have National Grids contractor come and take it down.

▶ 1:43:05 Maya Jamaleddine: And that process takes you know, how long

▶ 1:43:09 Speaker 2: all this well traditionally. It's actually taken. I would say six eight months. We've had a backlog at times. But another thing that Joe Hobbs are new operations manager has been tasked with is getting caught up on our tree assessments and sidewalk assessments. We want to be pretty much up to date on those and he's really been been working. Well with our tree crew to do that. We have a brand new tree Foreman forestry Foreman as well who's very enthusiastic about being caught up and staying caught up my last

▶ 1:43:42 Maya Jamaleddine: question. How do residents request a treat to

▶ 1:43:50 Speaker 2: be planted? So there's also service requests for a new tree again, that's one either. They can enter a request online or they can call us and we can enter the request for them. We fulfill the requests from oldest to newest. So we just work from the bottom of the list up and you know, hopefully now that we're getting caught up. If someone puts in a request hopefully within 12 to 18 months, they'll have a tree if we continue to fund at the at the level that and we're all caught

▶ 1:44:20 Speaker 4: up now.

▶ 1:44:22 Speaker 2: As of fall, we will be all caught up. So with the 171 we planted in the last. between I think it was November and now we're Close to caught up and and when we get through the next fall planting we will be caught up.

▶ 1:44:39 Maya Jamaleddine: What kind of trees are we planting?

▶ 1:44:41 Speaker 2: So we have eight species in our on-call contract. A resident did bring to our attention that one of the species that we've traditionally planted is a non-native species that is beginning to be considered invasive. And so this year we took that one off the list. We just asked the contractor not to bring any pear trees. They're Cleveland in calorie pear trees. We I am aware of a resident who is very interested in working with us on Our species and we're we're very open to that. We've I've done some research myself and attended some classes on street tree selection and there's some really good guides out there. And I know one of the big pushes now is installing trees that will be good in the climate that's going to be here 50 years from now instead of installing the tree that survives best in today's climate. So, you know, there's a lot that can be done there and we're not experts we've tried to educate ourselves to be sure that we are aware of all the current research but if you know if there's a passionate resident who wants to Give their feedback. We're really open to it.

▶ 1:45:53 Jen Grigoraitis: I have counselor Stewart councilor Williams and counselor Garipay and Q counselor Stewart. Thank you manager.

▶ 1:46:00 Robb Stewart: dogwood turkeys so the design of the bathrooms both boys and girls, right?

▶ 1:46:10 Robb Stewart: benjal neutral great great super In the trees, they're more than a replacement you're adding trees as well, right?

▶ 1:46:20 Speaker 2: so the current funding allows for basically just replacement. Okay, because

▶ 1:46:26 Robb Stewart: and the reason why I asked Miss peregos houses when we talked about West Emerson and some of the traffic coming that we wanted to do one of the suggestions that Ms. Rice had provided was to plant trees. Yes, but we haven't seen that yet. Yeah, so

▶ 1:46:41 Speaker 2: and when we do have special projects and also when we pave a street and we try to put in some trees those are usually above and beyond we try to fund those through other sources through chapter 90 in the like in the case of Emerson. My plan is actually just to have them jump the line and be in the fall planting around this year.

▶ 1:47:00 Speaker 3: Great, okay.

▶ 1:47:03 Robb Stewart: And then finally on on traffic calming how can residents? Take advantage of this. So, you know, there's because I know that there's all sorts of tractor coming that you can have right like in the slow streets and so you buy them a couple of cones and things like that, right? And that's that's kind of a short money. How can they get in? How can a resident that you know, like, my neighbor? For example, save Alden Street one do it. What would they need to do?

▶ 1:47:31 Speaker 2: So the traffic coming order is more for the free cash is more geared toward the purchase of infrastructure, like the rfbs and the sole speed feedback signs and the like And that is really just if they request it, we put it on the list. We don't really pass judgment when we put it on the list. We pass judgment when we have the funds and we decide is this really an appropriate location. So really anybody can contact us and say, you know, I have a crosswalk out by my house and I'd like to have a push button signal at that crosswalk. The traffic calming toolkit is more the place for you know, people just generally drive too fast on my street. I'd like to see people slow down. What can you do? This? Toolkit will allow us a place to Channel all of those requests put them through this process that determines. What's the most appropriate thing if anything to Pilot on that particular Road and then the grant will pay for the equipment. in order to do those Pilots, so that's the more appropriate Avenue for kind of a more generalist request of I just want people to be safer and slower on my street.

▶ 1:48:43 Speaker 3: Okay, great. Thank you counselor Williams.

▶ 1:48:47 Ryan Williams: Hello, so. Let's get back to the thing here. I wanted to talk a little bit about the traffic calming devices. Did I hear you write that the $70,000 essentially goes into like a fund that you'll then use to decide how you deploy? Maybe in our rapid rectangular flashing Beacon, maybe a speed physics. I'm maybe also bump out something. Yeah, that's great. I I would encourage. Us to look into design guidelines for the speed feedback signs their best used at transition periods. For example, we have one on Lebanon in my opinion. It doesn't really do much good it was set there because the police department used to be in that space that area where they would do speed traps, right? That's not really an engineered solution. They are most effective in transition points and they're most effective when paired with a speed sign that shows the user you are going this fast. This is how fast you're supposed to go and so for example in Wyoming The speed feedback scientist currently completely obscured by a tree that has grown over it and there's a black powder coat pole with a nice 25 mile an hour sign about 25 feet to the West. So I just pop that bad boy off put it right above that 25 mile an hour sign. I think these things you know, they're not my first choice for traffic calming per se they do work in some locations. They also collect data. And I think when we're talking to the neighbor waste folks some of that data could be super useful. I've seen some of the data and it's pretty revealing as far as how people are actually driving how fast they're driving. How many cars we have. and yeah, I just wanted to To say that out loud since we're sitting in the same room. It's always bothered me that we have so many of these radar signs that either aren't in the appropriate transition point or they don't have the speed limit sign posted below them and we don't have that many of them yet. So I wish we would just I hope that we can just make that happen. So that there is useful as they can possibly be.

▶ 1:50:57 Speaker 2: And one constriction there is that we can't post the white regulatory speed limit signs unless there's an established speed limit specific to that area. We're not allowed. We're not permitted to post the default speed limit of 25 in a white sign unless a speed study has been done and approved by Mass DOT most communities. Don't obey that but

▶ 1:51:22 Speaker 5: we we do we do where we

▶ 1:51:23 Speaker 2: put new signs new signs. I will say there are historic signs that are in locations where they probably shouldn't be and I'm not

▶ 1:51:33 Ryan Williams: Planning to take them down the traffic commission couldn't approve by itself to post the posted speed limit. Now. We've had this conversation

▶ 1:51:37 Speaker 2: with Mass DOT. So we can post with the solar speed feedback signs. We can post Yellow 25 mile per hour science if we choose and most people don't know there's any distinction, but I just wanted to point that out that we can't put the white signs wherever you want. It's interesting.

▶ 1:51:54 Ryan Williams: Okay, okay on the trees since as a person who's had a bunch of trees cut down on their street that process that you described which is so great. They don't think it's always occurring in the way that we would like it to I've heard stories from folks who have a notice go up in the tree never comes down. I've seen people who never get a notice but the tree comes down and you know, it's a lot of work especially with all the trees that we're cutting down to do like, you know, the noticing and everything and I get that but I'd encourage us to think of ways that we can make as much information as possible accessible as possible, you know on the website have the list of trees linked have a link to the direct ego of site or an email address or whatever some kind of you know information because this is a question. I hear a lot from people and even myself had to ask like, how do I get a tree and it's a great amount of trees that you all have been planting and please thank Jen Rosa for me. I should thank her myself and I will but if you talk to her tomorrow, thank her because we have four new trees. Hoover Playground and just today when it was 85 degrees outside if you look at the Playground space there was like a line of people sitting in the shade that the tree provides it's a thin tree, but it provides like, you know four foot wide. So it was like people were sitting adults and children babies carriages were sitting in the line of the shape already had immediate impact people are getting shade. It's really working out and and we really appreciate it and want to see more of it. My last substantive question is on the vehicles. So I'm looking through the list of the vehicles. These are big trucks. Most of them even the 3500s are fairly big they've got big beds, but we did have in the net zero action plan that you mentioned about the shed roof. We did have a line in that Net Zero action plan that said that National Grid would be working with the city of Melrose to Electrify the public works. Fleet so I'd like to know if you consider electrification for these vehicles. I happen to have some professional experience in electrification of heavy duty and medium duty Vehicles. So I know there are lots of constraints with this procurement, but I like to hear what steps you took what you think the future might hold and how you came, you know, or whether you're considering replacing some of the vehicles with electric.

▶ 1:54:12 Speaker 2: So Martha Grover is this close to releasing the EV first policy for the city and we've been working closely with her. And so we've provided her with the the memo when Jim and Joe completed it and we are talking about

▶ 1:54:30 Speaker 6: so

▶ 1:54:32 Speaker 2: the pickup trucks we're gonna look at electric. Okay, one of them is going to be at the cemetery and one of them is going to be used for the highway Division and possibly used for some some light plowing, you know as More of a management truck, but someone might want to drop a blade from time to time. So the cemetery vehicle we think could probably be an electric truck an electric pickup. We'd have to put in infrastructure down at the cemetery or at the very least a plug, you know have a designated place to plug that in. We're considering. For the highway truck. Maybe it makes sense to do a hybrid. You know, we're not sure we want to rely on full electric for

▶ 1:55:19 Speaker 2: something that's going to be used during snow operations. But but a hybrid might make sense and then the light dump trucks. We're we're working with National Grid and with Martha to identify if their options for those that are hybrid options, we would be unlikely to go full electric on those because they are heavily used during snow operations and they need to be up and running all the time. and the roll-off truck so our experience with the with the much larger equipment like we were just talking with Martha the other day about the Street sweeper. Yeah and how the electric street super options are still twice as expensive. And so, you know certainly becomes cost prohibitive. So I would say highly unlikely that the roll-off is going to be electric. But if you know, if there's some high efficiency option then you know, we're certainly open to exploring that.

▶ 1:56:13 Speaker 4: Thank you counselor Garipay and then councilor gemaldine.

▶ 1:56:17 Mark Garipay: Thank you. Just a couple quick questions on the cemetery. The lowering device is the current one working or and how long is the current lowering

▶ 1:56:27 Speaker 7: device working? The curve that is a safety. This is going to improve safety. It's going to improve efficiencies. It's it's

▶ 1:56:33 Mark Garipay: time for an update. No, it's currently working though currently work and how long will it take to get a new one? I think

▶ 1:56:37 Speaker 7: the lead times was six to eight weeks when we take the quote.

▶ 1:56:41 Mark Garipay: Alrighty, thank you for the line item for the trees. I know we've had this conversation in the past and you've reached out to the administration about putting a line item in the budget. They give in any reason why they can't put a separate line item in the budget.

▶ 1:56:59 Speaker 5: No, this is we didn't frankly I

▶ 1:57:01 Speaker 2: didn't ask for specific feedback. We submitted. You know in our initial budget request we probably had. Six or seven items that didn't get ultimately funded. Yeah,

▶ 1:57:12 Speaker 7: we obviously want to honor the instructions to level fund the budget but there were certain, you know, whether it was a council request contractual obligations. What have you we did make the exception to add line items and for the second year in row. We did add the line item for the trees. You see that exact number pretty much right in front of you tonight. And we as a lady said we don't necessarily solicit feedback as to why

▶ 1:57:41 Speaker 2: And and we work so closely during the whole budget process with the finance department and by and large, they're extremely supportive of our DPW budget. So, you know, we don't we don't push back when we don't

▶ 1:57:51 Speaker 10: get something we put in I would just like to see

▶ 1:57:54 Speaker 11: see more money.

▶ 1:57:59 Speaker 2: And I and I agree and we will probably submit it again next year.

▶ 1:58:02 Mark Garipay: the bathrooms at the high school Is going to go out to design my assumption is it would be for just so the public knows that this is a long-term project. I'm assuming this is not something that would happen soon. It'll be probably next summer. I'm assuming and how long would that date? We'd want to we'd

▶ 1:58:22 Speaker 7: want to move as quickly as possible to get somebody in for design and to try to bring somebody on board and we would want to try to streamline this obviously the most efficient time to do this stuff would be in a summertime. It's clearly not going to happen this summer. So I think right now it would be a very ambitious Target to look at

▶ 1:58:41 Mark Garipay: next summer. Yeah. I know just know that we all know that the bathrooms are in in tough shape. And now that this numbers we don't want to set in unrealistic expectations that they're going to be. They're gonna be done and

▶ 1:58:54 Speaker 2: then design only yeah, so everybody should be aware that we would have to return for some sort of funding authorization for construction.

▶ 1:59:01 Mark Garipay: Yeah, I think that's it's going to be a large funding based on the IP. I would guess just a couple questions on the fleet. the roll-off

▶ 1:59:15 Mark Garipay: with we use it about 20 hours a week right now. Is there any opportunity I know used vehicles are expensive but with the acquisition with JRM to Republic do they have any extra assets around that maybe give us something immediate because we know deliveries out at least a year on on this new equipment. So if we need something immediate if we can we maybe explore that option. Yeah, ironically not

▶ 1:59:38 Speaker 7: necessarily for the roll off but we had a situation recently in the fleet with a repair we needed basically a packer and we did explore so, you know based on need we would we would look at any available option as a rental or some sort of a short-term solution to a problem that we have. So yes

▶ 2:00:01 Mark Garipay: short answers. Yes and maybe some extra equipment out in the in the market right now and then with the packer My only recommendation with this is if we could. We're delivering on equipments out a year. It's probably even made could be even a little bit longer. There's a lot of components. With the rubbish contract coming up. In what two years I think two years so we got a year leeway. And we may totally change how we bid the contract we may include compost so. I would like to see I support this order but I would like to see if we can hold off on that because we don't want to go and invest in a $300,000 piece of equipment and then find out a year later that it's not we're not using it anymore. And we've lost it's just lost 40% of its value and it came off a lot. So if we can do some of the other smaller equipment Then the only other comment I would have is on. Is the industry right now deal with on a daily. Basis is the The equipment the smaller equipment are we buying off a lot or we buying production slot dates?

▶ 2:01:13 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a combination of both. We've already made a inroads with a municipal vendor looking at see what's available. Obviously that is a big challenge to be most efficient. We would want to see if there's anything available but I think it's going to be a generally a mix anything that might be available. We might have to paint it, but that's something the operating budget can handle but we want to try to maximize the turnover in the vehicles and try to minimize the age of Fleet. I would

▶ 2:01:44 Mark Garipay: just encourage that if we're looking at five units at five five trucks. We secure four leave a little leeway because there's a lot of surcharges going that is with production dates at a year out on raw materials. They're only guaranteeing slot dates the industry right now, and then we you know, we don't want to be You know all coming back to us with large additional money. That's I would be my only recommendation, but I support all these. Thank you.

▶ 2:02:13 Speaker 2: Thank you.

▶ 2:02:14 Speaker 4: Any other counselor for the first time before I go to counselor Jamal Dean?

▶ 2:02:18 Maya Jamaleddine: Counselor jimaldean, thank you. Just thought with the high school bathrooms. Are we is the all genders bathroom included? Yes.

▶ 2:02:32 Speaker 2: Okay. Yes there I think a lot has changed in bathroom.

▶ 2:02:36 Speaker 10: Thinking since those high school

▶ 2:02:38 Speaker 2: bathrooms were built. And we'll be relying on our consultant to really tell us what the industry standards are right now, but I know you know. Boys rooms have moved away from urinals moved toward individual stalls. A lot of places have moved toward just individual single-use bathrooms. We also have I'm sure a lot that we can do for accessibility to bring our our bathrooms up to code. So we'll be looking at all of those things and we want to really meet. The the standards of where they are now. I mean, I know, you know different students feel more comfortable in different situations and my kids happen to be children who are very sensitive to the bathroom situations in their respective schools. And and so I know it's a concern like you don't want a child holding it all day because they don't feel comfortable using the

▶ 2:03:35 Maya Jamaleddine: bathroom and we currently have only one all gender bathroom in the high school in the high school. I believe and I feel with the I would strongly recommend that we we make those bathrooms more than one to. To accommodate our students and to make as much the bathroom, you know as much comfortable for to use for our students as possible. Yeah, I would imagine

▶ 2:04:08 Speaker 2: we would be going to more than one especially I'm not sure, you know, you don't you don't want to cut down too much on the total number of fixtures for the same time. I would think that having a couple of single use restrooms that really makes it simple to make it all gender because it's

▶ 2:04:30 Speaker 2: To everyone person in a time and I think covid really forced a lot of that where you know, we were enforcing rules of one person in the bathroom at a time. And I was I never heard any complaints of long lines at the bathrooms as a result. So I think you know we can we should be able to make that work. Thank you.

▶ 2:04:49 Speaker 4: Any other counselors on this order?

▶ 2:04:52 Speaker 3: Counselor Stewart, and I'm sure I'll make a motion to recommend that I

▶ 2:04:56 Jen Grigoraitis: could we have a motion to recommend made by counselor Stewart seconded by counselor Williams.

▶ 2:05:02 Speaker 4: any discussion Seeing that Mr. Clerk. Can you please call the roll?

▶ 2:05:08 Speaker 1: Councilor McMaster. Yes. Counselor eckels. Yes counsel. Gerepe. Yes counselor Jamal Dean. Yes. Counselor Stewart. Yes Council crime Shady Counselor Williams. Yes, president sonella. Yes and chair greitus. Yes, that's not yes

▶ 2:05:25 Jen Grigoraitis: nine. Yes, so that will be recommended to the full Council. next we have ordered 2022-114 and appropriation from water retained earnings accounts 6100-319000 in the amount of 570,098.10 to various water accounts as set forth here in