← City Council · 2025-06-02 · City Council Regular Meeting
Petition for National Grid to install 1 JO Pole on Sylvan Street
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(ID # 12683) Utility Petition Petition for National Grid to install 1 JO Pole on Sylvan Street Granted City Council
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▶ 1:40:33 Speaker 11: And this is for a, a new development that actually will be in 1214 Sylvan Street. They are pretty much ready to go and they are needing definitely the service right now. So they are just waiting in this case for national agreed, but we cannot do it without your approval. So we need to install a mid pole that, and then we are gonna be installing a new pole in air property and will be like an overhead crossing in that, in this case, trying to avoid, uh, breaking the, the road that was the initial proposed
▶ 1:41:11 Speaker 7: Councillor Williams.
▶ 1:41:13 Ryan Williams: I'm gonna defer to Councillor Romanul for his question first. Councillor
▶ 1:41:16 Devin Romanul: Ramon, uh, thanks so much. Um, couple of questions. Uh, how, how close to, well, I, I saw in the memo that there was an express preference to go underground rather than across. This is a pretty busy intersection. It's right off of Main Street. You've got Pine Banks, uh, right over there. Me and my kids walk through there every single day. So I'm, I'm wondering what the thought process was for having overhead wires versus, um, you know, uh, versus underground and, uh, given the express preference and then, you know, how close is this pole in relation to the sidewalk and what kind of disruption can residents expect during that process?
▶ 1:41:51 Speaker 11: Well, it's a good question about the pole. So there is like an, an existing pole line, so it would be like the same as the other poles that are like next to it. And, and I, in my case, I always prefer like to go overhead because it's less disrupting, uh, than going underground because in this case, usually like the all underground job needs like a really civil work that in this case, national Grid usually doesn't perform. All the civil work always is done by the customer. So I just try always to avoid them more money, more time. That's the main reason that I decide to do that instead, like crossing and breaking the road because in my case, I don't know what they gonna find, inspect or try to avoid. Do what? What, uh, I don't know, like, uh, water main or something like that.
▶ 1:42:45 Devin Romanul: Sure. And, and what is the, uh, relation of the, the new pole in relation to the sidewalk and the, and the new building? 'cause I understand there are four units that are going up. Yes. Um, so maybe you could just walk me through those distances.
▶ 1:42:56 Speaker 11: So, uh, the distance in this case is not a problem. The problem in this case is the, now the, the new electric code in everywhere is asking that everything has to be electric. So initially they, they were hoping to do it like just a, a smaller service that doesn't require, in this case a new pole. But now these four houses requires, uh, an exclusive transformer that will be placed in on their property. But to get there in a safety way is better to install a new pole because we have, we have some poles over there, one of them are busy and the other one that is not busy, we can use it, but we can be aerial trespassing the neighbor's property and that's something that we want to avoid in that case.
▶ 1:43:46 Devin Romanul: And, uh, to my last question, just how, how long a um, how long a disruption can residents expect and, and will pedestrians still have access?
▶ 1:43:55 Speaker 11: No, for the police it's really easy, but because for a poll it can be just like a couple hours, like a half of a day, and it will be just like that. And in total it could be just a day because initially they will be installing if, if we keep like the same plan. So they will be installing the pole in the sidewalk and also the pole inside of their property. And I think that pretty much it can be done like in the whole day, the two poles and, and the half of that day they install the pole and the next day they will run the wire.
▶ 1:44:26 Speaker 4: Excellent, thank you.
▶ 1:44:29 Speaker 7: Anyone else on Councilor Williams?
▶ 1:44:30 Ryan Williams: Um, this is going on the tree belt on the east side of Sylvan between these two marked poles where it looks like it would actually land kind of right between two trees? Yes. That's what it looks like to me. Yeah. And there's no transformer on that. You're going to wire to a transformer inside. Okay. Yes. When you, when you say, I have a question about the general language you're using tonight. Yes. When you say a pole is busy,
▶ 1:44:55 Speaker 11: It's busy is like, eh, for safety, like policies mm-hmm. National grid only allows like one pole, one purpose, so Okay. In the case that it is an existing transformer or primary riser, we cannot use it and that's the reason that we need to ask for a new pole.
▶ 1:45:14 Speaker 1: Alright. Understood. Thank you. Thank
▶ 1:45:16 Speaker 11: You.
▶ 1:45:18 Speaker 7: Any other questions? What is the will of the council?
▶ 1:45:21 Ryan Williams: I'll make a motion to approve this to, um, I keep screwing this up. Just recommend a motion to, uh, recommend. Yeah. Second. So who are we recommending it to?
▶ 1:45:32 Leila Migliorelli: No. Yeah. Motion to approve. Uh, made by Councilor Williams, seconded by Councillor Romanul. On discussion. Seeing none, uh, councilor all. Sorry. That's okay. Councilor wa
▶ 1:45:42 Kimberly Vandiver: I I just, I didn't quite understand the explanation about, um, the underground option and it sounded like if we approve this, this will be for overhead.
▶ 1:45:52 Speaker 11: No, it's a good question. So either if we gonna go overhead or underground, we need the pole.
▶ 1:45:59 Kimberly Vandiver: Okay. We still need a pole? Yes. Okay. Understood. Thank you. Thank you.
▶ 1:46:03 Speaker 9: I think though, if you are going underground, I think you would need the conduit location to be part Yes. Part of under the grant of
▶ 1:46:10 Speaker 11: Location in that case?
▶ 1:46:11 Speaker 9: Yes. Okay. There would be an additional petition, but this, yeah, The poll would be there either way, but then they'd need the permission for the conduit. Uh,
▶ 1:46:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. Thank You. And, and if I understand correctly, the pole on the private property would not need to be there. It would be underground going directly to the transformer rather than a new pole on in the city property on the south side of Sylvan and then a new pole in the private property to get the overhead wire.
▶ 1:46:37 Kimberly Vandiver: Okay, so this pole no matter what and then either another poll or the underground? Correct. Okay, thank you.
▶ 1:46:46 Speaker 7: Okay. Um, motion to approve. All in favor?
▶ 1:46:51 Leila Migliorelli: Aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passes. Thank you very much for being here tonight. Thank you. Um, and with that I will entertain a motion to, um, recess city council to go back into appropriations. So moved.