ORDER-2016-158 : City of Melrose Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2017 in the amount of 75,328,574.79 (Seventy-Five Million, Three Hundred Twenty-Eight Thousand, Five Hundred Seventy-Four Dollars and Seventy-Nine Cents)

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▶ 1:01 Peter D. Mortimer: made a motion to close public participation said motion duly seconded by alderman Boisselle all in favor please say aye aye any opposed hearing none public participation is now closed we are beginning our budget process and the order number for the entire budget is order 2016-158 city of Melrose operating budget for fiscal year 2017 in the amount of seventy five million three hundred and twenty eight thousand five hundred and seventy four dollars and seventy nine cents mr. president yeah just just a couple of

▶ 1:45 Speaker 1: brief remarks on the budget as a whole you know I'm sure that there are people

▶ 1:57 Speaker 1: People who are hopefully going to be tuning in during the course of our discussions this year who haven't gone through this before or are unfamiliar with the budget. The city has a budget of $75,328,574 which has been proposed to us. The role of the Board of Aldermen in connection with the budget process is to consider and investigate the budget, potentially make cuts if we think they are appropriate. One thing that the Board of Aldermen cannot do is increase the amounts of the budget as a whole, or any individual budget. We have no power or authority to do that under our charter, and

▶ 2:42 Speaker 1: in addition, the Board of Aldermen has no authority to transfer or change money from one budget to another. So as we go through this, the scope of our review is to examine the individual budgets, determine where the money is going and why, but we do not have the authority or the ability to allocate money, move money around, add money, or place money where we would like to do it. That is the responsibility and the authority of the executive.

▶ 3:23 Speaker 1: I also would point out that this budget is $2,534,861 more than last year's fiscal budget. And that is a percentage increase of 3.48%. So that's kind of the backdrop as we approach the budget process and as we go through it. And one final thing, and then I'll stop, Mr. Chairman, is one of my things that I'm always interested in is how much total debt the city has. As we get the budget material from the auditor and from the state, all of our debt from all sources is $64,195,093. That includes all of our general fund debt and all of the debts for purposes and debts that are financed by water and sewer borrowing debt exclusions and things of that nature so i appreciate the leeway i as we start i like to try to make sure that people who are watching us have an idea of what the scope of our responsibility and our authority is as we go

▶ 4:27 Peter D. Mortimer: forward thank you very enlightening well said are there any other aldermen who would like to make Make any opening statements before we take up our first department budget? Seeing none, Madame Clerk, would you let the record reflect that we also have Alderman Wright in attendance this evening? Thank you very much. The first budget we have before us is department number 693. It is the Memorial Hall building, and we have the Memorial Hall director and one of the members of the Memorial Hall Board of Trustees. We have Mrs. Cathy Piggott-Broda and Mrs. Donahue, Mrs. Sexton. Sorry. I was thinking of your business, Sexton and Donahue, real estate of Melrose. Thank you for the plug.

▶ 5:14 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait.

▶ 5:15 Peter D. Mortimer: See how I did that? Made it look like an accident. Thank you, Mr. Sexton. All right, so is there a motion to suspend the rules? So moved. A little belated since they've already joined us, but we'll take it from Alderman Lemmerman, motion to suspend the rules. seconded by alderman Forbes all in favor please say aye any opposed hearing none would you like to make an opening statement ladies yes I would please

▶ 5:42 Speaker 3: proceed thank you so much as chairman of the board of Memorial Hall I have to say the city has done a great job and we really appreciate everyone's help we appreciate being invited here tonight but more importantly we have lots of news about the size of you know how Memorial Hall has grown since the last time we were here so Kathy's gonna tell us more about that but I also wanted to say that Kathy has been wonderful and I speak for the board not just myself she has really taken this job to heart and make sure everything gets done and it's really been a pleasure working with them so thank you we we have Rotary Club

▶ 6:19 Peter D. Mortimer: meetings there and I've been to many other functions and I wholeheartedly I wholeheartedly agree, Mrs. Piggott-Broder has been a blessing and a boon to that building. Are there any motions or questions from any members of the horseshoe at this time? Is there a motion to move this bottom line then? President Kahn, but before you continue, sir, Madam Clerk, once again would you let the record reflect that Alderman Medeiros is in attendance as well. Good evening, Alderman Medeiros. Thank you, good evening. President Kahn, please proceed.

▶ 6:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

▶ 6:57 Speaker 1: Just a few questions relative to your budget. In your salary breakout, it shows that in addition to your position,

▶ 7:11 Speaker 1: you have two event operations assistants and

▶ 7:16 Speaker 1: you also have three event operations assistants and another part-time position.

▶ 7:25 Speaker 1: What is the scope that those individuals work?

▶ 7:29 Speaker 3: full-time part-time no they're only um three of them are approximately 17 and a half hours a week and one is five hours a week and why i say approximately is because i'm an event driven business it depends what events are going on what week how many hours they work but if you average it out over the year those are their hours okay and everything that's reflected in your budget

▶ 7:50 Speaker 3: is what they're paid by your department oh yeah it's all out of my budget okay so there's no off

▶ 8:05 Speaker 1: budget payment to any of those folks and you also have revolving of the fund for

▶ 8:11 Speaker 3: Memorial Hall is that correct no we do not have a revolving account that's all

▶ 8:15 Peter D. Mortimer: I have on this budget mr. chairman Thank You president Kahn alderman boy cell

▶ 8:21 Robert A. Boisselle: please good evening welcome you have quite a activity going on next door because a part of the Alderman can't find your part any parking space in the

▶ 8:31 Robert A. Boisselle: area becoming quite a popular place question here in your budget your cleaning supplies to clean the facility is wiped out is there a reason for that

▶ 8:44 Speaker 3: or is the Public Works picking that up or no no it's not wiped out I have I have a little bit of it left but I just did I usually do a cleaning supply order in segments and I just ordered my final round of your budget for 2017 says zero

▶ 9:00 Speaker 3: oh oh I'm sorry I apologize no we know we moved it to miscellaneous supplies because what is happening is when I buy supplies they're not just cleaning supplies it could be a lock for a door it could be a toilet paper dispenser so they felt that cleaning supplies doesn't accurately reflect what I purchased so this year it says zero but all that money has been moved to miscellaneous

▶ 9:27 Robert A. Boisselle: supplies now how is the hall doing I mean every night seems to be there I mean how many activities are going on per month well in March we had a

▶ 9:35 Speaker 3: record-breaker of 56 we slowed down in April to 49 and this month I believe this month may we have 33 but overall we're a 5% increase over last year's

▶ 9:53 Robert A. Boisselle: five percent now I've been in the Memorial Hall quite a quite a bit in the point that there is some problems that are occurring in different areas now I believe you initiated a gate fee when groups are involved here you how much is

▶ 10:11 Speaker 3: that and we have a restoration fund purchase a ticket at Memorial Hall only those that purchase tickets there's a one dollar fee added to the ticket and that money is handed on an honor system after the event the groups that rent the event hand in a check for that amount and that is how we've been able to for example um that the roof needs to be checked on so I have a proposal for that we're going to use that money that's how I've been able to when the sound system broke replace the sound system so that's mostly where that money has gone to and and that is managed by the trustees.

▶ 10:49 Robert A. Boisselle: So the trustees receive the check and they deposit it in?

▶ 10:53 Speaker 3: Well, I receive the check and I deposit it, but I can't touch it. I have to go before the trustees to get approval to spend any of that money.

▶ 11:00 Robert A. Boisselle: Okay, good. And has it, well, with all these activities, it must be very, you must have, the fund must be increasing in size.

▶ 11:07 Speaker 3: A lot of my activities don't sell tickets. So it has to, remember that it's only tickets sold. example if we have like the Winthrop talent show or if we have like the knowledge high school pops they don't sell tickets to their events or we had a Middlesex Sheriff's Department Community Association gave a luncheon to the senior citizens they do not pay a fee it's only those that sell tickets which is about one-third I think of my customers very good well thank you very

▶ 11:35 Robert A. Boisselle: much for coming this evening and are you rushing back to the activity going on

▶ 11:44 Speaker 3: Memorial Hall thank you thank you it's a boxing match we've got to let her go

▶ 11:47 Peter D. Mortimer: before they wreck the place no they're very respectful of course of course I

▶ 11:56 Robert A. Boisselle: spoke out of turn all of them mister one more question are they selling tickets

▶ 12:00 Speaker 3: yes they're actually sold out yeah I did sell up there's some dollars for the

▶ 12:06 Peter D. Mortimer: restoration fund Alderman Lemmerman please Thank You mr. chairman thank you

▶ 12:10 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: very much for being here tonight just a couple of quick questions you are just before us maybe a week ago for a transfer of some some funding for electric and gas I believe which was a result of some of these events that you've been talking about how busy it's been over there so I see in your in the budget proposal for this next fiscal year you have a 15% increase for electric and a 4.2 percent increase for gas do you it does that reflect yeah this increase and that need for some additional funding I should it's the first year I've been able to increase I've been level funded every year and this is the first year that I've been able to increase it so I projected as much as I could for utilities so great thank you and then just finally the the very bottom item here I see it's a little over $3,000 that wasn't originally in the FY 16 budget and and it's not in this one that we're proposing so this 3012 in 84 APF y15 could you tell us what that's for that was one a one-time item of landscaping great okay but the rotary actually donated and purchased flowers for the hall so we don't need it this year great thank you very much Thank You mr. chairman Thank You alderman

▶ 13:23 Peter D. Mortimer: Leberman alderman Medeiros thank you thank you very much for your leadership

▶ 13:26 Monica C. Medeiros: always a pleasure there and I was one of those circling because of the parking which was great but I did want to just follow up on the question about electricity are you on a contract for your electricity right now my HVAC or in terms of price is it is it variable we in a fixed contract or for with National Grid yes or I'm not sure if it's with National Grid or my electricity is just

▶ 14:02 Speaker 3: like the rest of the city it's it's on the city fund it's everyone pays the electricity DBW pays everybody's electricity yes but I'm the only one that pays my own but it's the same contract as the rest of the city I don't

▶ 14:12 Monica C. Medeiros: negotiate any of that thank you so much appreciate that thanks thank you very

▶ 14:16 Peter D. Mortimer: much Alderman Medeiros Alderman's work oh please Thank You mr. chairman thank

▶ 14:19 Michael P. Zwirko: you both for being here tonight I know it's busy so I'll be very brief I um you mentioned the amount of activities that you have over there and I know that many of them are from local civic organizations here using the hall for various reasons whether it be the GAR room or the actual hall itself I'm just curious is there actually a discount for civic organizations versus a private

▶ 14:41 Speaker 3: organization to use the hall well I counted by profit and nonprofit organizations I don't have civic pulled out my nonprofit count I can tell you

▶ 14:54 Speaker 3: exactly what it is my nonprofits are 77 percent and 23 percent are business

▶ 15:00 Michael P. Zwirko: organizations and is there a is it a first-come first-served basis based on availability for the hall or the GAR room or is preference given to one over the other I guess how does it work if I were to apply as a nonprofit and seek it versus a private public for-profit organization is it just I don't

▶ 15:16 Speaker 3: distinguish which one of those you know rents the building everybody's money is green so I'll take anybody but what happens is I give preference to for example the Melrose Symphony Orchestra every Monday night rents the hall they've been there 87 years so they I block off every Monday night for them the first Sunday that in April the first Saturday of May so they automatically get it so I have a list of recurring customers that come there every year there's a couple of dance recitals moral symphony the rotary automatically gets every Thursday so that's like for out till 2007 that's already on the calendar online so then if you want to rent the hall you just go online look at the calendar and say I'd like to rent this date and the calendar says date available and if that dates available you're welcome to rent it whether you're a business or nonprofit or profit doesn't matter no I appreciate that

▶ 16:08 Peter D. Mortimer: thank you it's all questions that thank you alderman's work Oh alderman

▶ 16:12 John N. Tramontozzi: Tramontosi please Thank You mr. chairman so I see you no longer have a line item for landscaping and I assume that's because the good the green team of the Public Works Department correct there's all that yes it's wonderful great job yeah they do a great job great job I often walk by there and see them working they work hard I do have to ask this though because it is a in the public what is looking into this is that I also see that you don't you do not have a line item for water and sewer no that was

▶ 16:44 John N. Tramontozzi: removed from my budget a few years ago and but but does Memorial Hall have a separate metering device to measure water usage I believe so I do I don't

▶ 16:52 John N. Tramontozzi: even see any of those bills okay thank you that's all I need Thank You alderman

▶ 16:57 Scott M. Forbes: Tramontosi alderman Forbes please Thank You mr. chairman I'll be brief it's always nice to see the hall booked with so many events as you went through the numbers I was just from a revenue standpoint do you know approximately how much revenue Memorial Hall has generated either if you use fiscal year-to-date or last calendar year could just kind of give us summary of those numbers that'd

▶ 17:14 Speaker 3: be great I'm on target to collect 87,000 this year last year I collected 84,000 the year before was 76,000 the year before that was 71,000 and my first the very first year that I was here was 36 that's what I was gonna ask you so we're

▶ 17:37 Scott M. Forbes: definitely trending upward in the building is a vital tool for bringing everybody in the community together so thank you very much for all your hard work thank you mr chairman thank you alderman

▶ 17:45 Peter D. Mortimer: forbes is there a motion to move the bottom line of two hundred thousand four hundred four dollars

▶ 17:56 Peter D. Mortimer: and seventy eight cents so move mr chairman alderman forbes has moved the bottom line for The Memorial Hall Building, budget number 693, duly seconded by Alderman Boisselle. Seeing no further discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, this budget will be recommended to the full board at the conclusion of the budget process, which should wrap up in June. Thank you very much. You need not return, hopefully. Thank you.

▶ 18:23 Peter D. Mortimer: The next budget we have before us is budget 541. It is the Council on Aging in the amount of $180,782.52. We have the director of the Council on Aging, Dawn Philopoulos, here with us this evening. Would you like to make an opening statement?

▶ 18:43 Speaker 4: I would. Thank you. Outside of salaries, this year's budget is level funded. But if it's okay, I'd like to take a minute just to very briefly, I promise, describe some of the things going on at the senior center. Is that okay? still okay um during the past year we have offered over 2 500 programs at the senior center also our monthly publication now goes out to about 1900 people in the city seniors this past year we mostly focused on a positive living series that included we've tried something new and actually it was very well received we did programs like creating a personal vision daily gratitude using Reiki and meditation for pain management body mind and spirit healing and it was very well received and we actually brought in a lot of younger people having these programs also younger seniors we also worked on the assessment and the purpose of the assessment is to identify current and emerging needs of Melrose residents 55 and over and later in May we will present to the city the action step the outcomes of that assessment and also the action steps that will follow very similar to how our city was carried out in the coming year FY 17 we're going to focus on the action steps of course some of it includes better access to resources so we're going to make an online resource and then also a booklet form of a resource I mean resource directory also there will be an annual picnic and there's been when you see the action steps the outcomes rather there's been requests for financial literacy and also more information about financial benefits so and also a lot of questions technology so we'll do a learning series in next year also and what's really exciting is that we're doing a project to refresh the interior you're all going to want to have your meetings there when this is done so the city has agreed to fund some repairs that we need before the interior changes can begin so that included approval from the other night mostly to have the French doors repaired and also some interior doors and the HVAC system so the interior changes are being 100% funded by the friends group and they'll include essentially windows walls and floors so there will be three phases the first phase is Tierney Hall windows were windows walls and floors and then the classroom which is the big room upstairs that will get new windows walls and floors meaning painting but also cabinets and countertops and then phase three if there are enough funds will be to Redecorate the lobby just make it more vibrant than it was before We have I should say that with the assessment Gary Romano has been invaluable helping us With this helping us carry it out correctly, but also analyzing the results But with this interior design project, Anne Lenahan has been helping us pro bono. So we've been super, super lucky this year, with a lot of great talent. So that's all, that's all I have.

▶ 22:24 Peter D. Mortimer: Thank you, Mr. Philopoulos. We have your budget before us. Is there a motion on this budget, or any questions before a motion? President Kahn, please.

▶ 22:41 Speaker 1: So, in reviewing your budget, it looks like you have listed yourself as a full-time employee and potentially one other, and then you have, is it yourself and one other full-time employee, and are the rest of the people part-timers?

▶ 22:53 Speaker 4: Right, there are two full-time and 15 part-time.

▶ 23:00 Speaker 1: And are any members of your department covered by any collective bargaining agreement in the city? Yes. And which one, which position would that be?

▶ 23:14 Speaker 4: That is the program coordinator, it's 30 hours at the other full time position besides myself.

▶ 23:23 Speaker 1: Okay, and are all salary expenditures by your department fully reflected in your budget?

▶ 23:29 Speaker 4: They are not. They are not. There are other funding sources also.

▶ 23:32 Speaker 1: Okay, can you tell me what other salaries are paid and from whence they are paid, please?

▶ 23:38 Speaker 4: Yes. So I have a state grant, a state formula grant, and that's issued essentially by a dollar amount per senior in your city. So last year it was $53,800, and we use it for salaries, but also for supplies, but even bigger supplies, like new conference room chairs and things like that.

▶ 24:08 Speaker 4: So, all together, we have 6.25 FTEs in the whole department, so two FTEs are funded from the formula grant. So it's an office assistant at the COA office for 18 hours, then also the senior center dispatcher coordinators for the afternoon at the senior center, it's 20 hours a week, then also 29 hours worth of driver time those are all from the formula grant the city you can see but then there's also the Emerson fund and the people that oversee community dinner and also clean up after community dinner it's nine hours a week altogether they are funded from the Emerson fund they are the point two five FTEs. Okay. Anything else? Nope. That's not the

▶ 25:05 Speaker 1: body. Okay. So your actual salary expenditure is the one seventy nine seven eighty eight point five two plus fifty three thousand eight hundred plus whatever you get from the the

▶ 25:15 Speaker 4: Emerson fund. No, the fifty three eight hundred. It doesn't completely go to salaries. Okay. How much of it goes to

▶ 25:22 Speaker 4: salaries? Oh, goodness. I don't know specifically. I'm sorry. I can get back to you let you know yeah we go through this during the budget

▶ 25:33 Speaker 1: process mr. chairman and it's somewhat confusing and I don't mean to be obstinate on this but I think it's important with each department that we

▶ 25:48 Speaker 1: determine what all of our what salaries and wages are being paid from any source and the the city budget doesn't show us any grant or other forms of funding and positions that actually are paid fully from grants don't even appear in our budget book so well much to the dismay of probably many members of the committee I will be asking these kind of questions relative to every budget just so that we get the information out and it's before the public thank you I

▶ 26:15 Speaker 4: actually do know the number you do yeah it's 47,000 it just came to me so 47,000

▶ 26:21 Speaker 1: from the formula grant is used to pay salary and wages that's exactly right Thank you, thank you.

▶ 26:29 Peter D. Mortimer: Excellent questions, no dismay, I don't think on the part of any alderman. Great questions, we want to be fully transparent, as we've striven to do. We have our chief financial officer in the hall throughout this entire budget. And he heard your question, I'm sure. And that would be a good idea if you have any questions going forward

▶ 26:58 Peter D. Mortimer: as to the exact origin of any salary and every dollar that comes into a department's budget for salaries and for other expenditures. I'm sure we can talk to Mr. DellaRusso and we can get it down to the last dollar so we have a thorough and exhaustive accounting of everything. Alderman Boisselle, please.

▶ 27:19 Robert A. Boisselle: Good evening, thank you for coming. You mentioned in your opening statement that you had, you presented 2,500 programs. Right. That's quite an extensive programming for the citizens. How many citizens actually take part in all these programs, on average?

▶ 27:38 Speaker 4: Exact, in the past 12 months, 812.

▶ 27:45 Speaker 4: 812, so 812 different people attended these 2,500 programs and altogether it comes to 24,000 units of service.

▶ 27:57 Robert A. Boisselle: Does that make sense? That's very good.

▶ 27:59 Speaker 4: Is that, that's a little bit hard to follow.

▶ 28:02 Robert A. Boisselle: Yeah. You also have a van that picks up these senior citizens to, now are they bringing them to the building or are they also used for errands

▶ 28:18 Speaker 4: to doctors and supermarkets and so forth there are two vehicles yep and um if you need to go out of town to an adjacent town and also reading then that's okay for medical appointments or for shopping at market basket other than that we don't go out of town but if you need a ride inside melrose it's anywhere people will take the will take it to go to the bank the post office the hairdresser to meet their friends for coffee to go to a gift store um whittemores there's anything

▶ 28:47 Robert A. Boisselle: at all now how does the senior center a senior senior individual do they contact the uh who

▶ 28:55 Speaker 4: they who do they contact well the information's in the newsletter that's the best place to get it but if they call either the milano senior center or the coa office then they'll get connected with the schedule and you know what the different options are very good yeah I would like to say that for rides we did just under 8,000 rides 600,000 no no

▶ 29:20 Speaker 4: just under 8 just under 8,000 just under 8,000 that's that's better thank you

▶ 29:29 Peter D. Mortimer: very much thank you alderman Boycelle alderman

▶ 29:33 Monica C. Medeiros: Medeiros next in queue please thank you thank you very much for all you do and for all the volunteers that assist you as well in your staff I wanted to just follow up on I believe you had told President Kahn that there's one 20-hour afternoon dispatch position it's actually a couple of different people

▶ 29:55 Monica C. Medeiros: fill it a couple of different people okay yeah so it's not one person and and the driver time the 20 hours of driver time that's not one person also or

▶ 30:05 Speaker 4: that's actually it's 74 hours for the two vehicles 74 hours a week and there

▶ 30:12 Monica C. Medeiros: are six people that fill it okay and I think you had mentioned that on the the state funding grants that that included 20 hours of driver time on that 29 hours

▶ 30:22 Speaker 4: of driver 29 hours and then the city pays and that's not all one person it's

▶ 30:29 Speaker 4: not it's not the city pays for 45 hours of driver time so it's not equally

▶ 30:36 Monica C. Medeiros: divided yes that's okay thank you and I appreciate that and thank you I think

▶ 30:44 Peter D. Mortimer: that satisfies me thank you Thank You alderman Mazeros Alderman

▶ 30:47 Michael P. Zwirko: Suarco please Thank You mr. chairman thank you for your time this evening and all the hard work you do you mentioned that you do some of the programs that you ran over this past year it was specific to financial literacy we're

▶ 31:01 Michael P. Zwirko: actually going to do them in the year coming oh it's forthcoming yeah so I do I work in finance and there's a large event I'm sorry I'm looking for

▶ 31:11 Michael P. Zwirko: presenters do you want to present I'm honored thank you and what one of the growing concerns that we deal with is elder abuse with respect to finance and I was just curious it's a huge issue it's a growing issue I think there's something like 10,000 baby boomers a day retiring or it's an astronomical number so you know I'm just curious if when you do run this program will there be any type of alignment with reaching out for financial elder abuse in addition to you know physical elder abuse financial elder abuse is actually generally committed by family members that's right it's a tragic you know occurrence so when you do talk about financial education and things of that nature I would just you know try to tie in the the financial elder abuse as well it's it's something that we as a company that I work for we're trying to get out there and you know because you deal with mental capacity issues and other health concerns as well and you're dealing with the state so it's just to bring the awareness to the issue would be very valuable I feel for the community that you're representing I was also no yeah please please and if you need materials or anything you know feel free to reach out okay thank you so you also had mentioned some of the part-time employees you have I'm just curious we have a senior tax work off program and being in the senior center do you utilize any of that your volunteers that come in to assist with programs well we

▶ 32:29 Speaker 4: actually run the program you do so we grab could you speak a little bit about

▶ 32:34 Speaker 4: it as well just for folks that yeah so the property tax work program is you have to be 60 years old Melrose resident and you it's not really it's not work it's not volunteering but you help out in different departments throughout the and you are compensated at a rate of the minimum wage which is currently ten dollars an hour so the cap is a thousand dollars so the property tax workers can work up to a hundred and I would say all of them do work up to a hundred unless they become sick during the year or worse so they get $100 off of their property tax so there are last year there were 18 this year there's been some changes in the program so the income guidelines to participate have been lifted and also the amount of slots of how many people can participate in the program has been lifted so last year was 18 and so far it's 37 this year so those changes made a big difference in the people participating thank you for

▶ 33:39 Michael P. Zwirko: that a final question you had mentioned that there's that one of the vans takes trips to Market Basket that's right there's two supermarkets here in the city of Melrose I'm just curious how long has this trip and to market basket

▶ 33:55 Speaker 4: been going well we also go to Shah's here oh yes yeah you know you don't go

▶ 34:00 Speaker 4: to the Whole Foods we do not yeah there's not we did try but there really wasn't a demand for rides to Whole Foods and in the market bass is that the one

▶ 34:07 Michael P. Zwirko: in Reading that's right yeah yeah how often is that how often yeah we go once

▶ 34:13 Speaker 4: a week and we take a couple of different buildings on the first trip and then a couple of different buildings on the second trip so that's all that one vehicle does on Thursdays yeah and then Shaw's is depending on where you live depends on which day you go to Shaw's because we try to take a group to you know maximize using the minibuses I think those are all the questions that I

▶ 34:41 Peter D. Mortimer: Thank you, Alderman Zwirko. Is there a motion on this bottom line, please?

▶ 34:48 Peter D. Mortimer: Motion to recommend the bottom line for the Council on Aging by Alderman Boisselle, duly seconded by Alderman Forbes. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the budget for the Council on Aging will be recommended to the full board at our final meeting before we conclude the budget in June. The next order we will take up. Thank you. No, we're going to do your revolving account. Oh, I'm sorry. That's quite all right. No problem at all. The Council on Aging revolving account 2016-168. It's revolving account number 2811.