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ORDER-2018-169 : AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING REVOLVING FUNDS IN THE CITY OF MELROSE

Passed · HOLD [10 TO 0] · moved by Michael P. Zwirko, President/ Ex-officio Member, seconded by John N. Tramontozzi, Ward 1 Alderman Yes: Jennifer L. Lemmerman, Scott M. Forbes, Peter D. Mortimer, Robert A. Boisselle, John N. Tramontozzi, Monica C. Medeiros, Manisha Bewtra, Kate Lipper-Garabedian, Shawn M. MacMaster, Michael P. Zwirko. Absent: Francis X. Wright Jr..

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ORDER-2018-169 Revolving Fund/Reauthorization AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING REVOLVING FUNDS IN THE CITY OF MELROSE Hold Appropriations Committee City of Melrose Page 1 Updated 5/21/2018 2:34 PM

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▶ 52:04 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: thank you very much chief file revolving we do have we yes we do have uh the revolving account

▶ 52:16 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: on the agenda um it is another order on our agenda this evening however because they the revolving counts are all now part of one order so it's part of order 2018-169 is there a motion to take that

▶ 52:29 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: out of order so moved second we have a a motion to take order 2018-169 an ordinance authorizing revolving funds in the city of morrow's out of order by alderman medeiros seconded by alderman mortimer all in favor any opposed we'll now discuss the second item on our agenda this evening

▶ 52:46 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: which involves the revolving accounts which this year's process is slightly different than years passed in which we are taking them all in one order uh this evening there are two accounts

▶ 53:00 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: that are on our agenda for revolving accounts we have the the false alarm revolving account which is number 2665 which is overseen by Chief Lyle who we have in front of us now so I think we can address that first are there any questions Alderman Medeiros thank you

▶ 53:18 Speaker 7: Thank you.

▶ 53:21 Monica C. Medeiros: Chief, can you talk a little bit about this revolving account, how the funds are generated? It has, we're proposing to maintain the $10,000 annual cap and basically.

▶ 53:37 Speaker 4: So this is one of the administrative tasks that was also to maintain the false alarm account. So any business, any resident in the community that has an alarm in their house, they get two false alarm activations free, malfunctions, whatever it may be. I will say that every time we have a lightning storm or something, nobody gets billed for the folks at home, including myself. But we did this past year. We billed out $8,250. We still have $3,200 outstanding. We have not exceeded the $10,000.

▶ 54:16 Monica C. Medeiros: and and what is that usually fund in terms of expenses that it's to offset

▶ 54:20 Speaker 4: the cost of a fleet so if there's a service charge if we bring one of the cars back to a dealership there's a surcharge or co-pay or whatever you really call it we use the money for that we used it for our car washes for the for the fleet and we also use it for the gasoline for the motorcycles because the octane down the city yard is not high enough from the motorcycles so we go to lucy's garage we purchased the gasoline for the motorcycles there and uh have you found that

▶ 54:59 Monica C. Medeiros: you've been you said that you have uh i think you said you collected eight thousand two hundred

▶ 55:02 Speaker 4: fifty approximately eight thousand two hundred fifty dollars yes and you have how much outstanding three thousand two hundred dollars there's some fairly large numbers in the collections for in

▶ 55:15 Monica C. Medeiros: the collections and do you find that you're spending that down or is it uh pretty much

▶ 55:19 Speaker 4: right now i believe the account is at zero thank you very much additional questions on the

▶ 55:35 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: false alarm revolving account okay while we are on this order we do have another revolving account on our list for this evening which is the inspection services revolving account and we do have mr johnson here uh as we're under suspension of rules perhaps we should bring him up to finish out this particular order thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you chief you leaving

▶ 56:03 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: all right thanks thanks chief thank you mr johnson thank you uh just to clarify our process here we are uh discussing the revolving account we do have your uh budget your departmental budget item on on the agenda for afterward as well thank you madam chair thank you mr. Johnson

▶ 56:23 Michael P. Zwirko: for being here this evening I just had a very very brief question so I see here that for this particular revolving account it in its funded through fees from inspections of multifamily homes just you can you tell me as to why the

▶ 56:40 Speaker 9: genesis it started with multifamily why not is it uh it it's actually it covers um state mandated code annual biannual inspections uh required by the code of not just multi-families daycare facilities places that serve alcohol places of public assembly so it's a program my predecessor had put in place that um to recover and fund that that uh as we like to say the unfunded mandate by the state right and and it does cover it and and we're able to i i would say that we're probably

▶ 57:23 Speaker 9: one of a few that do have a program like this up and running uh not many towns or or cities actually get into it because they don't have the funds for it they don't have the process for it so so we inspect you know three family and above you know three families could be every two three just depending on their cycle of years and we go and inspect for safety issues just common hallways boil rooms that type of thing so we're not running into if there's a a fire or some type of thing we're not running into you know our guys in the fire department running into a place they can't move and then we again we have places of alcohol that serve alcohol restaurants that type of thing that we have to do required by the exit chapter to 304

▶ 58:20 Michael P. Zwirko: thank you for that information of the I mean I would think given the the amount of residential parcels that we have that would take up a considerable amount of your time just covering that area so I see that it's because this is from inspections of multifamily homes and other places of business that you mentioned it's to pay for the contracted inspectors because I would imagine that your office probably is overwhelmingly dealing with residential issues yes yes

▶ 58:44 Speaker 9: we have a part-time as needed inspector that we use him okay to go out on an as needed basis you know as they pop up we send him out for that okay so it pays for itself

▶ 59:00 Michael P. Zwirko: essentially oh absolutely yeah yeah well thanks for being ahead of your time in that uh regard for that fund so those are all the questions i had madam chair thank you thank you i i would just

▶ 59:09 Monica C. Medeiros: suggest that and maybe we should bring this back another uh evening but the this chart that we have in this order in terms of the fees charged and other receipts credit to the fund it just mentions only fees from inspections of multifamily homes it does not mention the other two sources that you had mentioned the places that serve alcohol and the daycares I could certainly get

▶ 59:39 Speaker 9: you the original order from back one and forward it to the clerk of committees to

▶ 59:46 Monica C. Medeiros: to make it available for you and i would suggest that this since this is going to become sort of in ordinance and a formal you know part of the process is making this a formalized document that you know if we don't include that i i would venture to say that you may not have the authority to use that in this fund so um i think we should probably amend that if you um could send forward

▶ 1:00:09 Monica C. Medeiros: a suggestion to the clerk of committees and perhaps in another meeting we can update the chart thank

▶ 1:00:22 Scott M. Forbes: you thank you additional questions adamant forts thank you i'll be real quick uh the fifteen thousand dollar cap is is that enough for you it is have you ever come close to hitting that number not since i've been here no okay and then for the i guess now i was going to ask you about multifamily homes like inspections but because they're so different they're probably the everything is there whether it's a two family four family established for alcohol like everything has its own all right strike that I know better thank you thank you thank you is there a motion

▶ 1:00:56 Speaker 8: for this order motion hold in committee motion holding committee we have a motion a hold in

▶ 1:00:59 Jennifer L. Lemmerman: in committee by Alderman Tramontozzi, seconded by President Zwirko. All in favor? All right. Opposed?