ORDER-2018-153 : Petition of National Grid and Verizon New England, Inc to relocate one jointly owned pole on Prospect Street; relocate existing pole #3426 approximately 15 feet to the west, per customer request, near 26 Prospect Street, Melrose, MA in accordance with Plan marked : Prospect St, Work Request #25817223, dated 2/26/2018

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▶ 27:41 Michael P. Zwirko: hearings this evening on our agenda one that is set for 8 p.m. and another that set for 8 15 i will read the order for the first public hearing that is order 2018-153 petition of national grid and verizon new england incorporated to relocate one jointly owned pole on prospect street relocating existing pole number three four two six approximately 15 feet to the west per customer request near 26 prospect street melrose mass in accordance with the plan marked prospect street work request number 258 17223 dated february 26 2018. this order is laid on the table currently in our procedure it would need to be removed from the table is there a motion motion to remove from the table alderman Boisselle moves to remove this order 2018-153 from the table has been seconded by alderman mortimer all those in favor aye aye any opposed hearing none is there a motion to commence the public hearing so moved mr president Thorp been a motion made by alderman mortimer to commence the public hearing it's been seconded by alderman Boisselle all those in favor aye aye any opposed public hearing may now commence at this time is there anyone that would like to speak to the order that is before us 2018-153

▶ 29:05 Michael P. Zwirko: the motion to suspend the rules by Alderman Mortimer. Second. Second. At this time, well, we could get to you in a moment.

▶ 29:16 Speaker 7: I'd like to, if anybody would like to speak to it. Yeah.

▶ 29:18 Speaker 6: Sure.

▶ 29:19 Michael P. Zwirko: Is there a motion to suspend the rules? So moved, Mr. President. Second. Second. Motion to suspend the rules by Alderman Mortimer has been, excuse me, point of order, Alderman

▶ 29:24 Francis X. Wright Jr.: Wright. Yeah, my understanding is a public hearing. Yeah. So we wouldn't need to suspend the rules for purpose of public hearing.

▶ 29:29 Michael P. Zwirko: To call the representative up? No. No. All right, at that time, I, the motion will be withdrawn. Yeah, it will. Thank you for the point of order, Alderman Wright. At this time, will the representative from National Grid please come forward?

▶ 29:45 Speaker 1: How are you doing? My name is Brennan Powell, 170 Medford Street. I'm an engineer with National Grid Electric in Malden. So, yeah, it's pretty straightforward. The residents at 26 Prospect Street are renovating their home, and they would like the pole moved 15 feet to the west, nearer to the property line of number 34.

▶ 30:15 Scott M. Forbes: any any questions all the mid Forbes thank you could you just describe like the work to be done is this this is normal routine work for you the timeline that's involved is it's going to be any disruption to curb sidewalks street

▶ 30:27 Speaker 1: traffic things like that currently the pole is in the grass strip Thorp no sidewalks that exist on that street and the new pole will be also in the public way on that grass strip on the edge of the pavement it'll probably take the crew about four hours to do it and there shouldn't be any disruptions to there wouldn't be any outages for any of their residents they can do the whole thing

▶ 30:48 Speaker 7: live outstanding thank you Alderman Wright thank you mr. president my

▶ 30:57 Francis X. Wright Jr.: understanding is that the butter I actually stopped and spoke with them this evening has no opposition to this even though the poll will be moved closer to their driveway um so uh i wanted to speak to the representative of national grid and

▶ 31:14 Francis X. Wright Jr.: make sure you're aware of the eight conditions that the city engineer has set forth right i have them in front of me i have all of them okay and do you have any issues with meeting any of those conditions of course not okay and when you say it will take four hours to replace the pole uh how How long will it take to actually move the wires from the original pole over to the new pole? Will that take place over time?

▶ 31:42 Speaker 1: That will take place over time. After we install the new pole, we send a work order over to Verizon and Comcast and the other fiber optic companies that are on the pole, and they have their own scheduling process they go to. and then when they are all off the old pole and attached to the new pole our

▶ 32:11 Francis X. Wright Jr.: crews will come back and remove the stub okay there is no sidewalk there so I'm just want to make sure there'll be the detail officer there or some way yep pedestrians because there are a lot of people who walk around that neighborhood with their dogs or just generally out for a walk and that they'll be able to get around that now even though it's only four hours that installation site

▶ 32:36 Speaker 1: right yep we'll have a police detail there we'll try to be as least of the

▶ 32:46 Speaker 7: disruption as possible great thank you thank you any other member of the board

▶ 32:52 Speaker 7: willing to speak on this no other members what is the will of the board

▶ 32:55 Speaker 8: motion to close the public hearing second yes excuse me sir if you're going

▶ 33:04 Michael P. Zwirko: to could you please come to the table and state your name and address my name

▶ 33:09 Speaker 9: is Mike fix I live at 14 prospect on the abutter on the other side of the property I have a pole in my driveway as well 3825 is the pole number so it's the next pole in line does this prevent me the distance that he's moving the pole away from me moving my pole at some point in the future uh i would have to look at it and evaluate

▶ 33:36 Speaker 1: it in the field um there is a limit on the distance obviously that we can have between poles because the wires will sag after a certain distance um but then again depends on the distance how much you would like to move it and uh i'm about four feet as well okay so i mean

▶ 33:53 Speaker 1: I mean, again, if you want, we can meet in the field and go over it, and I'll give you my card, but I don't have to evaluate in the field.

▶ 34:03 Speaker 1: Okay.

▶ 34:05 Speaker 9: That's good. Thanks.

▶ 34:06 Speaker 7: Thank you, Mr. Fix.

▶ 34:09 Michael P. Zwirko: I see in the audience we have another member of the public wishing to speak on this. If you could please come forward, sir.

▶ 34:14 Speaker 10: My name is Mike Catallo. I live across the street from the pole, 25 Prospect Street.

▶ 34:19 Michael P. Zwirko: Just in case people didn't hear you due to the microphone, do you mind repeating your name and address?

▶ 34:22 Speaker 10: My name is Mike Cataldo. I live at 25 Prospect Street. I live across the street from the pole. Thank you. My concern is my Ys go directly from my house to the pole. Where are my Ys going to go now?

▶ 34:35 Speaker 1: So we can mid-span your service drop, which I have included in the job packet that I gave to the crews, to make sure that it remains in the direct line across to where it was originally attached. It doesn't necessarily need to be attached to the physical pole. we can kind of float house services because they're not very heavy okay so right now that's

▶ 34:52 Speaker 10: where it is right so you you say it's going to stay in the same place it's not going to wrap

▶ 34:59 Speaker 1: around that's correct it will not wrap around your house okay yeah we don't yeah okay that's

▶ 35:09 Michael P. Zwirko: my question thank you thank you Thorp another member of the audience that's uh wishing to speak on this order you could also do the same your name and address when you get to your chair thank you

▶ 35:17 Speaker 7: Like a t-shirt Just to remind everyone what's happening tonight, you know Scott Hewitt 19 Prospect Street basically the same situation as Mike Cataldo my wires. I'm across the street. I'm curious how they're gonna be coming to my house

▶ 35:35 Speaker 1: So they will be coming from the same point of attachment on the secondary crib where they're currently located They won't we won't be pulling wires. We won't be

▶ 35:44 Speaker 7: All right drag you want to make sure I mean most of the wires are relatively close to the pole This is gonna leave me like in the middle of the dip between the two poles. So the new pole that goes in we

▶ 35:54 Speaker 1: We buy only class 3 size 40 foot poles now. Yeah, that's the only thing we stock So we try to lift that crib up All right, get the secondaries up a little higher just you know for a for that reason and you know We don't want dump trucks and right, you know other things hitting them trash trucks and what sort so thank you thank you sir any other members of the

▶ 36:15 Michael P. Zwirko: public wishing to speak at this time we do have a motion on the floor public you close the public second was made by alderman Medeiros earlier I forgive forgive the board I do not remember who seconded that motion at the time seconded by alderman Mortimer all those in favor of closing the public hearing any opposed the public hearing on this order is now closed thank you motion to

▶ 36:46 Monica C. Medeiros: incorporate the conditions outlined in the memo dated March 19th 2018 to the Board of Aldermen from Elena Proakis Ellis our city engineer outlining eight

▶ 37:03 Michael P. Zwirko: conditions to add that to the order Alderman Brodeur moves to incorporate the engineers report with conditions to this order is there a second second the motion to incorporate seconded by alderman Forbes on discussion all those in favor aye any opposed motion to amend including the engineers letter has been

▶ 37:26 Michael P. Zwirko: attached to the order the public hearing is closed sir what is the will the board

▶ 37:36 Michael P. Zwirko: on this particular order motion for passage has been a motion for passage of the order amended as amended made by alderman Rita it has been seconded by alderman Boisselle on discussion hearing none all those in favor aye aye any opposed motion passes