ORDER-2020-58 : Authorization to Accept a Grant in the amount of $70,313.00 from the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs (EEA) through the Municipal Vulnerability Preparedness Program; and Authorize the Mayor to Execute a Contract; funds to be deposited into Fund #4029

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▶ 26:09 Speaker 4: disability and this order will be referred to the appropriations committee order 2020-58 authorization to accept a grant in the amount of seventy thousand three hundred and thirteen dollars from the executive office of energy and environmental affairs eea through the municipal vulnerability preparedness program and authorize the mayor to execute a contract funds to be deposited into fund number four zero two nine councillor libra garabedian thank you president

▶ 26:32 Jen Grigoraitis: Grigoraitis i understand there's some urgency to this matter so i would move that we suspend city council rule 34a we have a motion to suspend council rule 34a made by councillor libra garabedian do we have a second counselor thomas seconds all in favor aye any opposed thank you the motion thank you and i would move then that we immediately consider this order motion for immediate consideration are there any objections to the motion for immediate consideration okay then i would move that we suspend the rules so that we can hear from city officials on this order we have a motion to suspend the rules by councilor lipper garabedian do we have a second second counselor senella seconds do we have um all in favor aye aye any opposed thank you we'd now like to invite city officials to address the council

▶ 27:35 Speaker 6: uh my name is patrick printer gas i serve as mayor broder's chief of staff the mayor is in boston at the governor's state of the commonwealth address otherwise be with you tonight um i am here to introduce our two hard-working city employees martha grover our energy efficiency coordinator

▶ 27:58 Speaker 7: manager and elena proegas are a city engineer so um thank you very much and thank you for considering this authorizing the mayor to sign this grant on behalf of the city under immediate consideration what we wanted to do was the three of us share our involvement and some background on the grants so you have some sense of some context assuming that this is much of it is new to most of you if not all of you um so i work in the planning department as the energy efficiency manager and over the last several years i've been representing melrose on the metro mayor's climate preparedness task force which meets quarterly and has regular meetings of representatives from

▶ 28:47 Speaker 7: 15 communities around Boston and over the years a number of issues have come up and through this task force I learned about grant opportunities and other programs that are initiatives of the state so in 2017 the Baker administration made climate resilience a priority for cities and towns across the state and forward a new program from the Executive Office of Energy Environmental

▶ 29:21 Speaker 7: Affairs called MVP, the Municipal Vulnerability Preparedness Program. And the way it's designed is that communities can first apply for a planning grant and then apply once you become designated go through a process you then can apply for action grants so in 2017 we applied for a planning grant we were in the first round of communities to go after this money to get and got it it was I think it was like $19,000 and what it allowed us to do was hire consultants somebody who was trained a firm that was trained by the state to conduct a planning process and a set of workshops that we that we held in the spring of 2018 and mr samala who was you represented the um chamber on that we had a number of stakeholders from around the community who participated in the two days of workshops where um and we had department staff department heads are representatives from National Grid from other organizations representing vulnerable populations and what but the goal of it was was to first learn about and identify the immediate immediate impacts and risks to Melrose from climate change so we use state provided data projections on storms weather, precipitation, temperatures, sea level rise, etc., which is not an immediate concern for Melrose, but a whole bunch of data and through the workshop process determined and that the biggest threats to Melrose are obviously severe storms, stormwater, heavy precipitation, and heat. And then throughout this workshop process which again is a state design process we then

▶ 31:44 Speaker 7: went through a process of listing out potential actions that the city needs to take to prepare for these risks and impacts from climate change on our community and and then we went through a facilitated process of prioritizing those action items and out of that came this well this is it's it's an appendix to our natural hazard mitigation plan which Elena can talk about further but it was the precursor to our natural hazard mitigation plan but it it's the part of the plan that addressed climate change and out of that plan we came up with our priorities really focused on number one which you've heard about and will hear about was getting a generator for city hall in the event of a power power loss extended power loss and then there were issues around storm water management improving our emergency management coordination and then instituting green on infrastructure and green buildings to mitigate the impacts of climate change and storm water so um we

▶ 32:59 Speaker 7: We went through the process, submitted our report, we were designated officially after going through this process in January of 2019 as an MVP community, which then made us immediately eligible to apply for grants and in the first round, and it was their first round, we applied for a grant for the generator, of course, because that's our number one priority. That grant was denied and it became very clear and then in future grant rounds they actually disqualify generators because they don't, their priority and their preference is to find what they call nature based solutions. So when the next round came up, I think we passed on the fall round because we had just lost the DPW director and we weren't really ready to apply.

▶ 33:57 Speaker 7: So then we met last fall, and I convened a meeting of Elena, city engineer or city planner,

▶ 34:03 Speaker 7: our interim DPW director and our emergency management director, and so we have this grant opportunity. Let's go through the list of priorities, what do we want to apply for, and when you're applying for grants, you're trying to figure out what's going to make a compelling grant application given the priorities and the way that they outline how they score grants but also what is what is a need in the city that is a benefit to most people that and this is something that again rose to the top it's come up in several different scenarios and it's been a long time problem the fact that we have flooding here in the city hall parking lot um and it's it's again elena can talk further so we applied for the grant she can talk to you about the what why we chose that one more specifically

▶ 34:55 Speaker 7: and they well from what i understand and again all this information is embargoed and i don't know the whole of this grant round but i have heard that there were 110 applications there are now something like 249 mvp designated communities out of 351 cities and towns they got 110 applications in the last two rounds they only awarded 30 about 36 in each round so i thought our odds were not great and i was really surprised to learn a couple weeks ago that we were awarded a grant but not for the whole thing that we applied for just for the design of the solution in the city hall parking lot and then they needed some they needed us to redo some of the information to because the scope is smaller i got that information back to them and then within a day they returned the contracts to us saying that it had to be signed by january 31st and which is why we're here today knowing that this was your only meeting between now and the 31st

▶ 36:03 Speaker 7: and it was easier to do this than to try to schedule another meeting and time is of the the essence we have to spend this money by the end of this fiscal year so cue

▶ 36:19 Speaker 4: it up for Elena sure so as Martha mentioned the applications score best

▶ 36:26 Speaker 4: when they incorporate nature based solutions so we wanted to find a project that was and you have to choose from things that you've identified as priorities in your MVP report you can't just pick something completely different and all of a sudden say you're going to apply so in in considering the types of projects that would be nature-based we only had a handful of projects that were truly nature-based that would imply providing natural treatment for stormwater so rather than just having catch basins and hard pipes out to the river where you don't get any treatment and maybe you're solving a potential flooding problem that could happen as climate change goes further along they

▶ 37:17 Speaker 4: want to see green infrastructure type solutions which would provide treatment and would provide treatment in a natural way so these are things like rain gardens and bio swales you know where the water runs off into a swale on the side and then infiltrates into the grass retention basins things that have vegetation that provides some portion of the treatment soils that provide some portion of the treatment that's the type of thing that would be considered green infrastructure currently the City Hall parking lot has a number of issues one is that the drainage doesn't go to the catch basins and I'm sure you've all seen it there are two spots that always have puddles in them one way more than the other but there are two parking spaces that oftentimes are unusable because of water in those spaces and then as soon as it starts raining there's a bowl right in the middle of one of the driving aisles that just becomes a huge puddle and there have been days when we've had to run around City Hall and tell people to move their cars try to figure out who owns the car that's parked in the the one space where the tailpipe the water is about to go in the tailpipe I think Martha was out in rain boots one day moving other people's cars because they weren't wearing appropriate footwear for the depth of puddles that were out there so it's a chronic problem and in a lot of ways it's an easy problem to address because it's one concentrated area we have the space we own the lot there's not there aren't property issues with trying to force somebody else to do something and so what we're proposing to do is to design and eventually construct a parking lot redesign where the the price tag that we put on the original application was about 400,000 total for the project and that included design and construction and that assumed that we don't change the layout of the lot the circulation I've heard comments here and there that the circulation of the lot is not ideal but that would involve ripping up all the curbing taking the trees out really changing it around and this project does not propose to do that but what we would do is basically tear up all the pavement in the areas where there are currently parking spaces we would regrade everything and design it such that the grading now leads the water to particular locations where we have different types of stormwater treatment so one might be some underground infiltration one might be a rain garden one might be some sort of a swale and the great thing about doing this in our municipal parking lot is that it can also be a demonstration project where we can put a little kiosk or sign that says you know this is natural stormwater treatment here's what it's here for it can be a little public education display and I'm sure that got us some points in the grant application that we're doing a public outreach component as part of the project so that's what we submitted was both design and construction the the documents I I believe you had access to an IQM2. We had the original design and construction estimate, scope and budget, and then we had the revised one that Martha and I put together based on the grant that we were actually awarded.

▶ 40:35 Speaker 4: I used to work as a project manager for an engineering firm, so I did budgets like this all the time with staff time and, you know, consultant time and this was not a challenging effort to put together an estimate like this to account for how much time would we be spending on the project that we could apply to our match and how much time would the engineers likely spend to design a project like this. So given that we were only awarded the cost to design the project, what that gives us is about 70,000 in grant funding and about 23,000 in match, 12,000 of which we're proposing to do as cash and the remainder as in-kind services. And those in-kind services are basically my time and Martha's to manage the project, to manage the consultant, to participate in workshops where we talk about what we wanna see out there, what different types of, the consultant has to provide a list of types green infrastructure for us to sort of choose from a menu of options then they'll come up with a conceptual design drawing we'll have a meeting to go over that then once we've all agreed on the conceptual design then they take that design forward usually to a 30 stage we review it then a 90 stage and then bid ready documents so we'll have a full plan set in the end of cad drawings of the proposed design along with a spec book probably this thick so that we can put that out to bid as soon as we have construction funding available either through a future grant or through city funds that would be ready to put out to bid immediately so that's what the deliverable is

▶ 42:25 Speaker 4: i've heard some questions about how this impacts other projects or other potential projects i know one big one is the public safety building this project can be designed such that it doesn't impact any future plans with the public safety building i think at a minimum we wouldn't put any green infrastructure components in that area that's immediately behind the fire station that would just be an area that would run off to whatever we're proposing and so if that area of parking didn't exist in the future it would be fine it would just get incorporated with the building and it wouldn't affect the grading of everything down to the to the low points of the green infrastructure memorial hall this really shouldn't impact memorial hall at all we're hoping to not lose parking spaces through this you know i would say at a minimum or at a maximum maybe we would lose the space that already floods that's pretty much not usable anyway but we'd hope to not lose any parking and then parking during construction would obviously be an issue but we could try to phase the project in such a way that that we never completely lose parking for municipal staff and visitors to city hall that can all be incorporated into the bid documents so that the contractor knows that they have to do this side first and then this side and then pave it in phases or whatever they have to do um and then that that match component uh the

▶ 43:52 Speaker 4: twelve thousand dollars that is proposed for the cash outlay that's not new money we're not requesting any allocation for that that is money that's presently in an account that was it's encumbered in a purchase order that is specific to our national pollutant discharge elimination system permit which is our stormwater federal epa permit and we had set aside funds to to put towards projects we didn't know which projects they'd be the permit is new as of last year it impacts communities all over the state and so that's basically an unfunded mandate so we started putting some funding aside to to use to meet the requirements of that permit and this helps us meet those requirements so it's a perfectly valid use of that money in that purchase order and with that i'm going to pass it back over to patrick to talk a little bit more

▶ 44:48 Speaker 6: about the funding and the match so um thank you very much the and again the question before the council tonight is simply the authorization of the mayor to accept the grant from the state the

▶ 45:05 Speaker 6: financially as as elena described in the previous city council in fy19 approved funding in for the use of mitigating drainage issues and in in connection to these new federal requirements that money because of staff time and other resources was not able to be spent during that fiscal year as is common practice when that occurs or if there is outstanding you know a particular project has outstanding bills that need to be filled or there's a project that their components of which a particular department was not able to complete a request goes from that department head to the city auditor for that money to be encumbered as many of you are aware it's then that's documented and granted so that way as we move into the next fiscal year we already know that complying with federal requirements on drainage is something that the city is going to have to address we already have a project before us or ideas about projects before us that we could use to address those requirements rather than begin the process back at square one we encumber that money into the next fiscal year which then does not have it therefore is not contemplated as part of the state's certification of our free cash so the 12 000 cash contribution into this project that unlocks the state's seventy thousand dollar grant to the city um is already spoken for and earmarked for this purpose um so i think that concludes

▶ 46:44 Christopher Cinella: do you have any questions counselor sanella uh thank you for being here um you know somebody who parks in that lot every day and i parked in that space that you're referring to i know what it's like out back and my mother-in-law actually lost her car in the 80s back there in a flood so you know i was excited to see this this grant my question is you know is this normally the way this will play out where we're kind of given limited time

▶ 47:14 Speaker 4: this is a one-off situation how did that come about where it sort of yeah i i would say so in the time that i've been here um which is a little over four years this is the second time in four years that something that I've been working on has required immediate consideration the other one was the approval of the hazard mitigation plan which was similarly to meet a grant deadline the the only times when we would typically come before the City Council for something like this with immediate consideration is when an outside entity is imposing a really tight timeline on us that we wouldn't be able to meet otherwise and there's money at stake that we could potentially lose and it's it's very rare that that happens i think the case with this mvp grant and martha might know a little bit more but the way we applied for it we applied for the design for this fiscal year and for the construction into next fiscal year they make you split it out in the application and i suspect that as they were identifying projects to fund they probably had fewer projects that could get done in this fiscal year and so you know that probably I would wouldn't be surprised if there are some points allotted for readiness to start and so some projects probably got better consideration because they could start immediately and so we were put on this timeline that the whole 70,000 has to be spent by June 30th and we need to get a consultant on board and do the entire design now in five months so I'm sure they want us to sign the contract immediately because they know that five months is a really short time frame to do that much work I can also just add to

▶ 48:56 Speaker 7: that that in my experience now it's I think it's almost ten years with all the grants that I've applied for this one's unique that this program this you know just came out of nowhere in 2017 the baker administration has all of a sudden made climate resilience a huge priority for the state and um it's it's they've gone from zero to 249 communities in a couple of years that's even more than green communities in this state and you know a third of the time and it's all new staff and so every time we have a new regional rep and I just it just kind of feels I just get the sense that they're completely overloaded and so they're always they're trying they're just playing catch-up because of the interest in us in these grants and just the new and the small staff at the EEA the secretary the woman who was overseeing this program is now the secretary of energy so everyone's just pretty pretty

▶ 50:10 Mark Garipay: green yeah you had mentioned that the grant had to be used by by the end of this fiscal year June 30th and you said you don't you do not see any reason why this will not be completed if by some reason we do not complete this is there any financial ramifications for the city if if we don't finish the grant in time

▶ 50:34 Speaker 7: I from what I've read they will reimburse us for all of our expenses up through June 30th so that the push will be on to pace ourselves and you know pace the project scope and the all the action items so that we get everything invoice by the 30th but they will reimburse us for everything that we put

▶ 50:59 Mark Garipay: out even if it's not completed yeah yeah and you mentioned the mvp plan is that a evolving

▶ 51:07 Speaker 7: document how often can you update it or is it i think we i mean obviously we we can as things change and this was kind of a point in time that this these workshops took place and we created these priorities so i think we will need to revisit it and new issues will come up and we'll have to amend it it hasn't happened yet so i haven't figured out how we do that but i'm sure

▶ 51:28 Speaker 4: there's a mechanism for doing that and just to add to that the hazard mitigation plan which the mvp report is now an appendix of fema wants cities and towns to revisit it every year it's required to be fully updated every five years but they request that we do it like a check-in with city council annually just to track progress identify any issues answer any questions that was something that they required for us to have in the report so since this is a component of the larger report it's something that we could also

▶ 52:03 Mark Garipay: discuss at those I also apologize if I miss this when you were speaking when you were talking about potential paving of the parking lot are you talking the whole parking lot or the like the last three rows where it floods and really

▶ 52:18 Speaker 4: dips down the the budget that we had was to pay if the whole city on the portion

▶ 52:26 Speaker 3: of the parking lot okay thank you councillor Stewart you're all set

▶ 52:31 Robb Stewart: I don't president I councillor Migliorelli Ms. Grover and Ms. Vercosellis answered the questions that I was proposing so thank you I think this is a great idea

▶ 52:39 Leila Migliorelli: councillor Migliorelli thank you thank you guys for coming tonight I appreciate the effort you put into this I think it's a great opportunity for the city to take advantage of the state funding to do projects that are already on our capital improvement list and especially those that are environmentally friendly I think that it's it seems a minimal impact on the city budget with funds we've already appropriated so from that perspective it all makes sense to me I think you've answered almost all of my questions regarding that we were being awarded for just the design portion you had initially asked for design and construction the deliverable will be the design plan that can be used to go out to bid for construction clarify that and then I just there was a document that you had referenced there that I don't see an IQ I'm to the the whole budget line item the piece you yeah I don't see that in there the original scope and

▶ 53:43 Speaker 7: budget is in the it would have been in the application okay yeah and then although it's possible that the original one it might just be the amended scope

▶ 53:58 Kate Lipper-Garabedian: and budget that's in that's in there through the president I'm looking at it myself and I didn't see it at first either it looks like if you open up the order rather than all that it's not listed as an attachment within the order I do see additional links one which says Melrose MVP fiscal year 20 action grant application final one so if you're in split view you might see it there yeah then I order I agree it didn't show up as a separate attachment so we'll make sure we can make sure I'm sure that our clerk will make sure that it's included

▶ 54:31 Speaker 3: in the public record thank you thank you any other questions

▶ 54:34 Cory Thomas: thank you madam president thank you all for being here I want to echo council Migliorelli. I think this is a great opportunity. I did have a question for Ms. Proakis. You said during the phasing they'll be doing certain parts of the parking lot. Do you have any idea of how many parking spaces we might

▶ 54:58 Speaker 4: be losing during the phasing? During construction? Yes. That would all really be up to the design engineer to propose what they were going to put into the specifications if we were gonna do it in you know half of the lot and then half of the lot or do it in thirds it it really depends on I think it's gonna depend on the layout of where the green infrastructure components end up within the lot because if there's you know if there's a subsurface infiltration system that takes up one whole aisle and that will have to be installed all at once so I think it's it's really gonna remain to be seen once we have that conceptual design plan to then decide how we can phase it what is the timing on that

▶ 55:37 Cory Thomas: conceptual design plan and what will that mean once if and when this is approved when will we see a design plan the conceptual design plan would be we

▶ 55:59 Speaker 4: were proposing to have that in mid-april you want to just quickly go through

▶ 56:09 Speaker 4: what the steps are sure on project sure so yeah so we have this scope that we put together it's much more colorful on your screens but so we had task one would be consultant selection and oversight and that's where we procure the consultant fortunately state procurement law laws allow us to sole source procure this type of work because if we had to go out for an RFQ and go through that whole timeline a formal RFQ we would never get this project done in time so we're going to solicit some very brief proposals from a handful of companies that we know are all qualified and we'll let them submit some some resumes and some documentation of previous projects that are similar they've completed we have some selection criteria we'll select our consultant sign a contract we're going to tell them what the budget is because we know exactly what their budget is for the design work so we're going to say here's what we need to get done and here's the money we have and just propose how do it and that way a firm that doesn't feel they can stick within that budget just wouldn't submit a proposal and then we have time in there just for project management for managing the consultant so then the next step would be to survey the whole parking lot survey the drainage structures determine what all the elevations are of what's existing we would also perform some pre-construction sampling because we want to see what the quality is of the stormwater in the parking lot it always has a terrible oily sheen on it there's a lot of solids in it a lot of sediment it's it's not pretty so I think we're gonna you know hopefully have some some before samples that we can compare to our after samples once constructions done and see that we've improved things then next the consultant would identify that menu of options of green infrastructure types conduct a conceptual design workshop and then develop and review the conceptual design drawing they'd develop it we'd review it then they would develop 30 design we'd review those documents and then they'd go forward to the bid ready design actually 90 is a usual milestone but we eliminated that given the quick time frame and then they would also develop a long-term operations and maintenance plan which is a critical part of any stormwater treatment that you have to maintain it and you have to know how to maintain it because that would fall on city staff um and then we would stop right there at the at the um point of being bid ready

▶ 58:46 Speaker 4: and then the project would pick up from there in the future if we decided to bid and construct

▶ 58:53 Speaker 3: does anyone have a first question councillor mcnaught thank you madam president thank you

▶ 58:57 Jeff McNaught: all for your presentation tonight i too am excited about this study in this project I just had I guess one clarification for the folks watching at home and that is I know sometimes people hear the phrase with the term free cash and they get nervous and they hear us talk about these numbers rather quickly so I guess just the clarification that I wanted to make was excuse me is that when you're not asking for additional funding the money is already there there's money left over from last year that was reserved for similar projects and I just

▶ 59:40 Speaker 6: wanted to make that clear thank you yes thank you council it's important to note that like you said there this money has already been approved by the City Council appropriated for such a purpose and we are smartly carrying it over to this fiscal year so that we can get this project done this is not a request for new money this is not an appropriation by any stretch of the imagination it's already there and we're just using it to unlock $70,000 of grant money from the

▶ 1:00:18 Kate Lipper-Garabedian: state thank you for the clarification thanks thank you and thank you all for being here tonight I appreciate that you referenced that you're cognizant of the potential for some attention to our public safety building to the fire station which I think everyone is eager to get focused on and that that that's you're mindful of that as you think about a design here one thing people often talk about as well is with respect to parking availability and so certainly I've heard from residents who have some interest in could we put a small deck you know a parking deck behind Memorial Hall and City Hall just to add more spaces for our local businesses and for when Memorial Hall has events and so forth and I know we have public we've done some studies around that and whether or not we need more capacity but certainly there is an interest in whether we could enhance our parking capacity at some point given that interest is it feasible to can you know can we think about green infrastructure in a way that allows us to still be flexible if at some point we wanted to

▶ 1:01:25 Speaker 4: add a second layer of parking for example i think that would be possible to to think about in terms of the placement of the green infrastructure components anything subsurface it wouldn't matter anything at grade you know if it's sunlight dependent obviously can't be covered in the future with a with a parking deck and still be functional so you know we can look at whether it's possible to put those types of components on the outsides of the project. I would expect that a multi-level parking structure would be an extremely expensive

▶ 1:02:04 Speaker 4: endeavor, so I guess if there were a real push for that in the future, it's something the community would consider but I just hear so many priorities yes you know between the library and Memorial Hall and public safety building that you know building more parking at a high cost I think would be I would be surprised if that ever took precedent over some of these other high-cost items sure I think

▶ 1:02:30 Kate Lipper-Garabedian: that that your perspective is shared by many people I just know that this store owners downtown worry a little bit about how many people are bypassing our really vibrant commercial sector because they don't want to hassle with parking so I suppose as with any good design approach the consultants working with you all will be thinking about ways in which to be flexible in light of things like the public safety buildings needing to be and you know updated significantly but also just ways in which we can put in place really important infrastructure while keeping options open for things you know a decade from now or two

▶ 1:03:17 Speaker 3: decades from now as well so thank you very much any other first questions

▶ 1:03:22 Jack Eccles: Councillor Eccles thank you all for being here tonight could you talk a little bit about the construction process and could would be possibly looking forward to an allocation for that in the future or applying for a grant and can you sort of talk about the timeline for that so ideally we wanted

▶ 1:03:36 Speaker 4: the grant to cover it but I would envision that once we have bid ready documents if we have a really terrific project it would make for a very good future MVP action grant application and I think it might it might be something that there would be more of a desire to fund once it's something once they can see what the end product would actually look like that might help it also score some more points I also know so I'm involved with a group called the resilient mystic collaborative and they're looking for projects it's the mystic River watershed Association who's managing this and this parking lot is in the mystic River watershed just for those who don't know the stormwater from here flows to spot prawn brook which flows out to the mystic river eventually malden river the mystic river so the water quality coming out of our parking lot is impact impacting downstream resources so the mystic river the resilient mystic collaborative they are applying for MVP grants as well on behalf of communities and they're trying to some of their their applications are grouping projects they're looking for small projects throughout the watershed that maybe together have a large impact so there's also the possibility that they could see this as a great project to kind of jump on and support and then other grant opportunities come up all the time we have random things for example our complete streets prioritization plan that some of you have been involved with we've been able to tackle some of the projects on that plan through completely separate grant opportunities we had a housing choice community grant opportunity that came up and we got a hundred sixty thousand dollars in funding to do Cherry Street to do the complete streets project there that was slated for year three or four of our streets program so we're always on the lookout for funding sources and then depending on what we come up with maybe it's something that we look to fund just through capital or through free cash or you know bonds or whatnot depending on where other priorities fall

▶ 1:05:58 Christopher Cinella: out thank you councillor Cinella during construction is there a plan in place to have say the City Hall staff parking off-site the high school or where where

▶ 1:06:12 Speaker 4: are all the existing cars during that we other direction phase gonna go because I know that you know this community will have issue if during the day everyone's moving over to Dill's Court Larrabee I can't envision any scenario in which the City Hall staff end up parking in Dill's Court or Larrabee because we know how stressed those lots are so I think you know some sort of shuttle might be an option or depending on how we can phase it if we can always leave enough parking for the City Hall staff you know the number of spaces we know we need for city hall staff that might be an option too but that's all you know a little down the road depending on how we phase it because there's also the last three rows of mainly right of the merchants merchants yeah so there's a lot to think about during construction but also construction shouldn't be that lengthy you know when we do just paving projects alone those are sometimes you know they can be accomplished in just a couple weeks adding the green infrastructure components probably means it would take at least another month but it doesn't have to be it's not gonna be five months of construction it might be six weeks of

▶ 1:07:29 Jen Grigoraitis: construction any other questions thank you all very much for being here tonight I'll entertain a motion for passage so moved so a motion by councillor the

▶ 1:07:39 Jen Grigoraitis: Garabedian and second by councillor Sonnella I believe this is a roll call

▶ 1:07:47 Speaker 3: vote councillor Sonnella yes councillor Eccles yes councillor Garipay yes councillor Lipa Garabedian yes councillor McMaster yes councillor McNaught yes councillor Migliorelli yes councillor Stewart yes councillor Thomas yes councillor Chiamantosi yes president Grigoraitis yes 11 yes thank you thank you very